Tech question

[BlueDevilRef]

Last week, had six players on court after a timeout just before halftime. We took one off but just as partner puts ball in play, kid jumps back into court thinking he was in the game. We whistles the T and moved on. At halftime, we checked book and noted we had correctly handled it.

I'm looking again just to keep up on it and I'm posting this bc I can't make myself understand. For ADMINISTRATIVE technicals , they are counted toward the team foul count but not assessed against the coach, therefore he doesn't lose the box, correct? I only ask bc I could swear I've seen it discussed that score book T before the game the coach loses the box but that is not in the chart labeled Technical Foul Penalty Summary. I've read rule 10 as well and I'm just frustrating myself

By the way, in the game described above, coach kept his box, we did not seatbelt him.

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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

...I only ask bc I could swear I've seen it discussed that score book T before the game the coach loses the box but that is not in the chart labeled Technical Foul Penalty Summary. I've read rule 10 as well and I'm just frustrating myself
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B/c the HC does not lose the box for that infraction.

He does when bench personnel run directly on to the court.

And it doesn't just happen at that level. My first JuCo game of the season we had a player run directly on to the court from the bench.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

B/c the HC does not lose the box for that infraction.

He does when bench personnel run directly on to the court.

And it doesn't just happen at that level. My first JuCo game of the season we had a player run directly on to the court from the bench.

I hope your juco coach didn't lose his box for this technical foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I hope your juco coach didn't lose his box for this technical foul.

I think it would be pretty hard to convince a college coach that he loses his box.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I think it would be pretty hard to convince a college coach that he loses his box.

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JUCO coaches around here, anyway, think we're playing under HS rules (for the most part). I had one argue that his opponent should lose the box after a technical. It was a long day.

[BlueDevilRef]

Ok. Maybe I'm just crazy. I could swear several topics on here were about coach getting seatbelt for admin book T before game (changing starter, adding player etc). But maybe I'm just getting it jumbled.

In my game I described, they had six on court. We had one go off and in a matter of next 1-2 secs as ball is being inbounded, he comes back onto court. Would anyone have done anything besides the team T,no indirect that we issued?


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[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

Ok. Maybe I'm just crazy. I could swear several topics on here were about coach getting seatbelt for admin book T before game (changing starter, adding player etc). But maybe I'm just getting it jumbled.

In my game I described, they had six on court. We had one go off and in a matter of next 1-2 secs as ball is being inbounded, he comes back onto court. Would anyone have done anything besides the team T,no indirect that we issued?

Don't rely on what you THINK you remember from these forums. Rely on what you KNOW from studying in the rulebook. There is a great Technical Foul Penalty Summary chart in the back of the book that has a column showing whether the coach gets a direct, indirect or nothing, based on the type of technical foul assessed.

He loses his box for anything direct or indirect on him.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

Ok. Maybe I'm just crazy. I could swear several topics on here were about coach getting seatbelt for admin book T before game (changing starter, adding player etc). But maybe I'm just getting it jumbled.

As W&S posted, by this point it shouldn't matter what you thought you read here. You've had ample time to check your rule book since last night's game. You should already know the answer for certain now.

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

In my game I described, they had six on court. We had one go off and in a matter of next 1-2 secs as ball is being inbounded, he comes back onto court. Would anyone have done anything besides the team T,no indirect that we issued?


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That is a bench Technical for a player illegally entering the court. It's is charged directly to the player and indirectly to the coach. Six players on the court is a Team Technical charged when plays resumes with 6 players on the court, or you notice 6 players on the court but didn't see the extra player enter. In this case you saw the player jump of the bench and illegally enter the game while the ball was live.

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

As W&S posted, by this point it shouldn't matter what you thought you read here. You've had ample time to check your rule book since last night's game. You should already know the answer for certain now.











That is a bench Technical for a player illegally entering the court. It's is charged directly to the player and indirectly to the coach. Six players on the court is a Team Technical charged when plays resumes with 6 players on the court, or you notice 6 players on the court but didn't see the extra player enter. In this case you saw the player jump of the bench and illegally enter the game while the ball was live.

He didn't jump off bench, he ran off court when we noticed we had six and then right back on when he thought he was supposed to be in. But, I do see the difference. Not that it matters but this was a 7th grade game.

And bc it will matter as I go further, isn't getting the right number of players why we count? If there are six, does everyone get the extra players off floor or just issue a T? My understanding is that we don't resume play until we have the five on five??

Again, I appreciate the counseling. I can read the book until my eyes cross but I do feel this forum helps me apply what I read.


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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

And bc it will matter as I go further, isn't getting the right number of players why we count? If there are six, does everyone get the extra players off floor or just issue a T? My understanding is that we don't resume play until we have the five on five??

That's correct, but at some point you'll count incorrectly, or you won't see the player leave the bench and enter the court, or ...

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

He didn't jump off bench, he ran off court when we noticed we had six and then right back on when he thought he was supposed to be in. But, I do see the difference. Not that it matters but this was a 7th grade game.

And bc it will matter as I go further, isn't getting the right number of players why we count? If there are six, does everyone get the extra players off floor or just issue a T? My understanding is that we don't resume play until we have the five on five??

Again, I appreciate the counseling. I can read the book until my eyes cross but I do feel this forum helps me apply what I read.


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Until the ball becomes live, no infraction has occurred.
If you can hold up your partner from administering the throw-in and remove the excess team member, then there is no penalty needed.

[BlueDevilRef]

W&S, thanks!! That's what I'm looking for


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[Nevadaref]

I believe that you are being confused by a previous forum discussion on pregame dunking.

[BlueDevilRef]

Thanks again!!! As I've stated, the more I learn the better I can apply rules


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[Mark Padgett]

Just remember - if you're counting the number of players on the floor from both teams, if you have to take off a shoe and sock to keep counting, there's too many players.