First Time Doing Men's League

[UNIgiantslayers]

Thanks for all of the input, it was really helpful. A couple of points:

1. It's a Sunday league, so availability due to HS games is not an issue.

2. On the subject of laziness, that's something that I noticed a lot with intramurals and weekend lower level tourneys-- refs that are way out of position, trailing fast breaks (i.e. just getting to half court as the L when the ball is put up), etc. It drives me crazy, and I hate when a member of my crew does it because it makes us both look terrible. If you can't get up and down reasonably, find a different hobby.

3. I'm not sure on the clock rules (hopefully it's running), but I really like the idea of taking your time to report the warning. It's a passive-aggressive jab back at the player on top of a good way to end the chirping.

4. I'm fairly certain that there is no fine for a "T," but I will definitely be approaching my buddy to suggest that for next year.

5. In the ref guidelines, it says to show up 15 min before your game. Doesn't sound like there will be a lot of time for a good solid pre-game.

[Raymond]

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5. In the ref guidelines, it says to show up 15 min before your game. Doesn't sound like there will be a lot of time for a good solid pre-game.

If you want a pre game for a rec league you need to ride to the game with your partner. 15 to 30 minutes prior is standard for rec leagues around these parts

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you want a pre game for a rec league you need to ride to the game with your partner. 15 to 30 minutes prior is standard for rec leagues around these parts

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At 30 minutes, I'm about 20 minutes from arriving when I work youth/rec ball. My pregame is to change my shoes, decide who's tossing the ball, and deciding that we're not switching on non-shooting fouls.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

At 30 minutes, I'm about 20 minutes from arriving when I work youth/rec ball. My pregame is to change my shoes, decide who's tossing the ball, and deciding that we're not switching on non-shooting fouls.

What this guy said (except I usually show up in my game shoes). Also a lot of these games get about 50% sprint from me. There is no way in hell I'm giving it 100% at a 4th grade girls tourney, and I guarantee you whatever percentage I give you still get a better product than many of the officials who just don't know how to ref.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

What this guy said (except I usually show up in my game shoes). Also a lot of these games get about 50% sprint from me. There is no way in hell I'm giving it 100% at a 4th grade girls tourney, and I guarantee you whatever percentage I give you still get a better product than many of the officials who just don't know how to ref.

Since when did 4th grade girls start playing in adult male rec leagues?

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[deecee]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

2. On the subject of laziness, that's something that I noticed a lot with intramurals and weekend lower level tourneys-- refs that are way out of position, trailing fast breaks (i.e. just getting to half court as the L when the ball is put up), etc. It drives me crazy, and I hate when a member of my crew does it because it makes us both look terrible. If you can't get up and down reasonably, find a different hobby.

I knew I saw it.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

Thanks for all of the input, it was really helpful. A couple of points:



1. It's a Sunday league, so availability due to HS games is not an issue.



2. On the subject of laziness, that's something that I noticed a lot with intramurals and weekend lower level tourneys-- refs that are way out of position, trailing fast breaks (i.e. just getting to half court as the L when the ball is put up), etc. It drives me crazy, and I hate when a member of my crew does it because it makes us both look terrible. If you can't get up and down reasonably, find a different hobby.



3. I'm not sure on the clock rules (hopefully it's running), but I really like the idea of taking your time to report the warning. It's a passive-aggressive jab back at the player on top of a good way to end the chirping.



4. I'm fairly certain that there is no fine for a "T," but I will definitely be approaching my buddy to suggest that for next year.



5. In the ref guidelines, it says to show up 15 min before your game. Doesn't sound like there will be a lot of time for a good solid pre-game.

The league I'm in also has a 3 Ts per season per player limit. After that, you're done for the season.

[JWP]

Check with other officials and find out if the league administrators have your back. If they don't, do yourself a favor and pass.

I worked a wreck league where a player physically assaulted an official (threw a ball as hard as he could into the back of the official's head). The guy was given a lousy week's suspension. I quit. So did a bunch of others.

I have also worked for a park and recreation department that protected the refs. Two technicals on a team was a team forfeit. Players behaved themselves and played basketball.

Even then, it wasn't worth it.