Rolling under the play.

[billyu2]

Have not heard or read anything to that effect. Who is your source or what site did you get this from?

[SNIPERBBB]

John Tipton's presentation to our local association.

[SNIPERBBB]

Also was warning anyone that wanted to do playoffs that they better be parallel to the endline as L

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Apparently OHSAA wants us to roll under(toward endline) a ball handler/defender as T instead of going over(towards division line).

Our local association doesn't seem to be to fond of it, what say you?

I'm having trouble understanding what this means.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Also was warning anyone that wanted to do playoffs that they better be parallel to the endline as L

As in shoulders parallel to the end line? That would look weird when rotating, no?


Isn't Ohio known for having stupid mechanics in football and basketball?

[SNIPERBBB]

If your trail and to avoid trying to look through the back of the ball handler, you need roll to the top of the match up or under to give you the angle. We are being told to go under, which puts everyone but that match up out of your vision.


Don't know about football but OHSAA mechanics are known for, "you will do NFHS mechanics by the book or you will not do well in playoff assignments"

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

If your trail and to avoid trying to look through the back of the ball handler, you need roll to the top of the match up or under to give you the angle. We are being told to go under, which puts everyone but that match up out of your vision.


Don't know about football but OHSAA mechanics are known for, "you will do NFHS mechanics by the book or you will not do well in playoff assignments"

And puts you out of position to get to the other end in the event of a turnover. Trail should trail the play.

[scrounge]

I haven't heard anything like that kind of blanket edict here in the central district. Maybe it was 'if you have a choice, better under than over' or something, but it's so situation-dependent there can't be one simplistic rule of thumb. In 2 clinics and a few meetings so far, there's hasn't been any such advice. I have heard "don't go above and so far into the court that you risk getting caught up in fast break traffic", but nothing like go under at all times. And the parallel for L is about when standing, not keeping them parallel while rotating.

And no, I don't think they are 'stupid' mechanics at all. Basketball is just straight NFHS book mechanics (with the exception of no long switches in the backcourt). And of course you have to follow them to get playoff assignments - imagine that, following instructions and doing things the right way - as defined by those making the assignments - in order to get assignments.

As to football, ok, I get some don't like the specificity of the football mechanic manual, but I like having a set of common, standard operating procedures that I know everyone has been trained on and evaluated on. I like having the basics covered and a single set of procedures and protocols so I don't have to worry about those when filling in or working with a new person, no matter if they're from this district or not. Just like when I was in the Army and we always carried ammo in the same place, filled our rucks the same way, stowed tools and other items on each vehicle the same way, it's not about being robotic or rigid, it's about having a base of uniformity so that everyone is starting from the same base and on a common page. Of course it's not the only way or even the 'best' way - whatever that is. But it works quite well and most certainly isn't *stupid*.

[billyu2]

I attended the annual rules interpreters meeting in Columbus and never heard these directives nor have I received any bulletins or updates saying such. Our director has been a proponent of "squaring" the shoulders for some time but I've never read a statement that says assignments depend on it. Yes it could be one of several factors that might determine an official is not rated high enough to receive regional/state tournament assignments.