Unconscious player RTP

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BigCat

It is OUR responsibility to remove a player who shows signs and symptoms of a concussion. Yet when the player comes back to the table we are supposed to assume that the player has been approved to resume play by appropriate health care provider.

No "appropriate health care provider" would allow a kid who was unconscious to return. If the coach sends him back to the table I will allow him to walk on the floor. then i will determine he shows signs and symptoms of a concussion and send him out again... and tell the coach that the school and the "appropriate health care provider" dont have enough insurance if the player falls on his head again.

If I am ever faced with the situation, I will have it annotated in the book that the coach is responsible for the player reentering the game. I almost had to do that last year as a coach was reluctant to even remove this player from the game in the first place it seemed like he was going to have him return at some point.

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[Nevadaref]

Guys,
Can we stay focused and just answer the NFHS question please?
I am interested how you would answer the question on a test.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Guys,
Can we stay focused and just answer the NFHS question please?
I am interested how you would answer the question on a test.

Tough for me to be any more clear than what I had in post 3. "It should be true but it IS false.....doesnt say physician or a writing in the rules."

I'll try harder next time....

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Guys,
Can we stay focused and just answer the NFHS question please?
I am interested how you would answer the question on a test.

I already did that, and posted a citation.

[BillyMac]

In Connecticut, all interscholastic coaches, middle school, through high school, including assistant coaches, and "volunteer" coaches, for all sports, get mandatory concussion training, and are, thus, considered appropriate health care professionals.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In Connecticut all interscholastic coaches, middle school, through high school, including assistant coaches, and "volunteer" coaches, for all sports, get mandatory concussion training, and are, thus, considered appropriate health care professionals.

They can't be serious. Wow.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

They can't be serious.

Hey. It could have been worse.

The State of Connecticut legislature considered a law to get sports officials trained in dealing with concussions, but our state interscholastic sports governing body, that includes an officials organization component, lobbied on behalf of officials keep us out of the process. Thankfully, the legislators followed the advice of the state interscholastic sports governing body. Eventually, the State legislature decided to make annual concussion training, along with first aid, CPR , etc., mandatory for coaches to be licensed.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Eventually, the State legislature decided to make annual concussion training, along with first aid, CPR , etc., mandatory for coaches to be licensed.

That's good. And, many states have this (or similar).

Making them "health care professionals" for purposes of the rule being discussed is nuts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hey. It could have been worse.

The State of Connecticut legislature considered a law to get sports officials trained in dealing with concussions, but our state interscholastic sports governing body, that includes an officials organization component, lobbied on behalf of officials keep us out of the process. Thankfully, the legislators followed the advice of the state interscholastic sports governing body. Eventually, the State legislature decided to make annual concussion training, along with first aid, CPR , etc., mandatory for coaches to be licensed.

Originally Posted by Rich

They can't be serious. Wow.

Well Illinois has a law that requires coaches to have some concussion training to be able to coach scholastic sports on some level. Now that does not make them "Approved Healthcare Professionals" where they can evaluate or approve a kid to play. There is a law for schools to have someone at games to approve or monitor these things and they have to be registered with the IHSA so if something happens those are the people that can be called on.

I am hearing that we as officials might soon be required to pass some kind of concussion testing so that we can officiate IHSA games, but I have not seen that approved yet.

Peace

[LRZ]

In Pennsylvania, PIAA has clarified "that 'an appropriate health-care professional' is a licensed physician of medicine or osteopathic medicine (MD or DO)."

[Kansas Ref]

This is a typical sitch wherein "common-sense" has collided with a "verbatim" reading of the NF. Of course any "reasonable person" would not allow A1 to re-enter the game; however, if coach wants his best player in--who had previously been hearing only crickets chirping and eyes have rolled in back of head after getting an elbow to his head's temple--back in the game. Then calls over a score table woman who is also the school nurse/cafeteria manager/detention hall monitor [i.e., read as "quasi healthcare pro"] then gets an "all clear OK" from her--then the refs cannot disallow A1 from re-entering the contest.