Coaching Box Q&A

[BoomerSooner]

I agree with all of the comments here. The thing I find interesting (and the biggest reason I posted the scenarios) is that just about every where I've worked or watched games, the mentality about this is the same despite the rule book suggesting we should be enforcing this differently.

I am wondering if I'm missing something though based on CrossCountry's response. He said he wouldn't have a T in any of my scenarios, but I was asking whether or not any of those actions would cause the coach to lose the opportunity to use the box. If we followed super-strict adherence to the rule and determined the coach lost the coaching box for one of the actions I described, wouldn't we just notify him/her that he/she can no longer use the coaching box. Then if he/she returned to the box after the notification, a technical would be given at that time? Am I accurate or does any action that causes the coach to lose the box also require a technical foul.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BoomerSooner

I agree with all of the comments here. The thing I find interesting (and the biggest reason I posted the scenarios) is that just about every where I've worked or watched games, the mentality about this is the same despite the rule book suggesting we should be enforcing this differently.

I am wondering if I'm missing something though based on CrossCountry's response. He said he wouldn't have a T in any of my scenarios, but I was asking whether or not any of those actions would cause the coach to lose the opportunity to use the box. If we followed super-strict adherence to the rule and determined the coach lost the coaching box for one of the actions I described, wouldn't we just notify him/her that he/she can no longer use the coaching box. Then if he/she returned to the box after the notification, a technical would be given at that time? Am I accurate or does any action that causes the coach to lose the box also require a technical foul.

If the coach begins the contest with the coaching box privilege, then the only way to lose it is due to a technical foul (whether direct or indirect).

My only quibble with the Iowa regulations for the coaching box is the one stating that the coach may not kneel. There is no rules support for that.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My only quibble with the Iowa regulations for the coaching box is the one stating that the coach may not kneel. There is no rules support for that.

Yeah I don't get that either. If a coach wants to stand on his hands for the entire game while within the box, I don't care. In fact I'd be pretty impressed.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Yeah I don't get that either. If a coach wants to stand on his hands for the entire game while within the box, I don't care. In fact I'd be pretty impressed.

My belief is that the state governing body views this as a safety issue. They don't want a player or official who is running down the court to not see and be undercut by the kneeling coach.

So there is a rationale behind it. I just don't agree with the regulation.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My belief is that the state governing body views this as a safety issue. They don't want a player or official who is running down the court to not see and be undercut by the kneeling coach.

So there is a rationale behind it. I just don't agree with the regulation.

Yeah I hear ya. And I agree, it's an unnecessary regulation.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My only quibble with the Iowa regulations for the coaching box is the one stating that the coach may not kneel. There is no rules support for that.

Actually, the rule does support that. It says the coach must remain seated then lists exceptions, all of which are "may stand". No exceptions exist that permit anything other than standing. That said, I don't know of anyone that enforces it that literally, but it does say that.

SECTION 5 HEAD COACHES’ RULE
ART. 1 . . . The head coach shall remain seated on the team bench, except:
a. By state association adoption, the head coach may stand within the designated coaching box described in 1-13-2. The first technical foul charged directly or indirectly to the head coach results in loss of coaching-box privileges and the head coach must remain seated for the remainder of the game, except as stated below in 10-5-1b, c, d and e.
b. The head coach may stand within the coaching box to request a time-out or signal his/her players to request a time-out.
c. The head coach may stand and/or leave the coaching box to confer with personnel at the scorer’s table to request a time-out as in 5-8-4.
d. The head coach may stand within the coaching box to replace or remove a disqualified/injured player or player directed to leave the game.
e. The head coach may stand as in 10-4-4c and 10-4-4d.
NOTE: The head coach may enter the court in the situation where a fight may break out - or
has broken out - to prevent the situation from escalating.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If the coach begins the contest with the coaching box privilege, then the only way to lose it is due to a technical foul (whether direct or indirect)...

...unless you are in Iowa, in which case if you start in the coaching box, and then go sit down somewhere outside the coaching box, you have essentially forfeited your coaching box privileges for the remainder of the game.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

...unless you are in Iowa, in which case if you start in the coaching box, and then go sit down somewhere outside the coaching box, you have essentially forfeited your coaching box privileges for the remainder of the game.

That would only be due to being charged with a technical foul for leaving the coaching box. It can't arbitrarily just be taken away.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

...unless you are in Iowa, in which case if you start in the coaching box, and then go sit down somewhere outside the coaching box, you have essentially forfeited your coaching box privileges for the remainder of the game.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That would only be due to being charged with a technical foul for leaving the coaching box. It can't arbitrarily just be taken away.

Not according to the original post. Go back and look at question 9 again. There is no mention of a technical foul.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Not according to the original post. Go back and look at question 9 again. There is no mention of a technical foul.

There is also no mention of him losing the coaching box or forfeiting it as you wrote. The Iowa question and answer mere states that what the coach has done is not permissible. When a coach does something which isn't permissible, the only penalty that I know of is a technical foul.

I can see warning the coach for being outside of the box, but we don't take it away without issuing a technical foul.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

There is also no mention of him losing the coaching box or forfeiting it as you wrote. The Iowa question and answer mere states that what the coach has done is not permissible. When a coach does something which isn't permissible, the only penalty that I know of is a technical foul.

I can see warning the coach for being outside of the box, but we don't take it away without issuing a technical foul.

OK, I can buy that.