Pre-Game Technical Fouls

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

I love the pointers everyone. So what about Freddy's situation which is an administrative technical at 8:00 and a dunk at 2:00? Do we consider this a double technical and shoot no throws or do them in the order they occurred?

Thanks to all of you for helping us grow as officials. pfan

Rule 10 says Freddy's first technical is a "team" technical. The second T is a player technical. The case play cited by Bob above, says "Both TEAM A and B are charged with a technical foul…" Then says "when each "TEAM" is assessed one technical prior to game".. double T occurs.

The facts in that case play show each team was charged with a TEAM technical. Those offset under the language of that case play. Freddys do not fit the case play. shoot them in the order they occurred.

[hoopsaddict]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Rule 10 says Freddy's first technical is a "team" technical. The second T is a player technical. The case play cited by Bob above, says "Both TEAM A and B are charged with a technical foul…" Then says "when each "TEAM" is assessed one technical prior to game".. double T occurs.

The facts in that case play show each team was charged with a TEAM technical. Those offset under the language of that case play. Freddys do not fit the case play. shoot them in the order they occurred.

Dunking in the pregame is not a player technical but, instead a bench technical. There are no players, by rule, only team members during the pregame.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

Dunking in the pregame is not a player technical but, instead a bench technical. There are no players, by rule, only team members during the pregame.

It still gets charged directly to the team member. The "book" T gets charged *only* to the team.

That's the distinction.

I agree with shooting 4 FTs in the latest play (but I'm a little unsure of the order). And, what if A adds a team member at 8 minutes. B dunks at 6. B adds a team member at 4? Do the "book" Ts offset, and we just shoot 2 FTs? Or do we shoot 6? (I vote for shooting 2.)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

Dunking in the pregame is not a player technical but, instead a bench technical. There are no players, by rule, only team members during the pregame.

Yes, bench technical is proper term. focused on the "team" part so much got lazy on the language.

I would offset team techs in Bob's OP and shoot 2 also.