Backcourt count

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

In NCAA mechanics where you'd normally rely on the shot clock for the 10-count, do you start a visible count in this particular situation or do you just glance at the SC and make a mental note of the time?


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Crosscountry:

That is an excellent question. I will ask one of my friends that are still officiating college basketball.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

I think the only time you use a visible count (in NCAAW) is when the shot clock is off.

[justacoach]

Explained years ago by the very highly esteemed Jurassic Ref

[Refhoop]

Can one of you tell me if the back court rule for the 10 second count are the same for NCAA men's and women this year?
I.E.: I understand that only three situations prohibit a reset of the 10 second count: Ball OB (without having established FC status), Held ball (w/ no change of possession) and Technical foul on the offensive team.
What about a timeout by the offensive team?
Women's provides for a reset of the 10 second count - is this the same for men's?
Tried researching it online, and figured asking you would be faster and more educational!
Thanks!

[APG]

Originally Posted by Refhoop

Can one of you tell me if the back court rule for the 10 second count are the same for NCAA men's and women this year?
I.E.: I understand that only three situations prohibit a reset of the 10 second count: Ball OB (without having established FC status), Held ball (w/ no change of possession) and Technical foul on the offensive team.
What about a timeout by the offensive team?
Women's provides for a reset of the 10 second count - is this the same for men's?
Tried researching it online, and figured asking you would be faster and more educational!
Thanks!

NCAA-M: a timeout by the offensive team will buy Team A a new 10 count

[bob jenkins]

I believe this rule is the same.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mlancaster

Here's a question that came up at our association meeting recently.
We had an IAABO rules guru, one of the best, bring this up....

Team A has the ball in their front court. The ball is deflected by team B and rolls into A's backcourt.... And rolls a while before A picks it up. Team A runs back and retrieves the ball near the free throw line. When does the 10 second count for backcourt violation start? When team A gathers the ball or when the ball first touches the backcourt?

It was said the count starts as soon as the ball touches the backcourt because Team A still has team control of a ball inbounds, in their backcourt after the deflection. I have never seen anyone count in this situation.....until A picks up the ball. If they did it may help with the understanding that any foul by team A while the ball is rolling in the B/C is a team control foul. I normally would not start the count until the player from team A has control. I may have always been wrong..... I see nothing in the rules to support or deny this.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Crosscountry:

That is an excellent question. I will ask one of my friends that are still officiating college basketball.

MTD, Sr.

A former student of mine (he became an OhioHSAA basketball official when he took and passed my basketball officiating class many many years ago) and is now a Men's Div. I official told me that in the case of the OP the T is to use the Shot Clock for the new 10-Second Count.

MTD, Sr.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

A former student of mine (he became an OhioHSAA basketball official when he took and passed my basketball officiating class many many years ago) and is now a Men's Div. I official told me that in the case of the OP the T is to use the Shot Clock for the new 10-Second Count.



MTD, Sr.

Thanks, Mark! Great inside info.


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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Thanks, Mark! Great inside info.


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Inside info?

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[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Inside info?

I meant from a knowledgeable source. Not truly "inside" information, I guess.


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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I meant from a knowledgeable source. Not truly "inside" information, I guess.


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I'm pretty sure you have personal contact with a handful knowledgeable sources.

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