Coach requests a timeout

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

Team A coach requests a timeout to question a correctable error. Coach is out of timeouts and he is proven wrong on his question. Is coach A charged with a technical foul or do u just play on? If possible please reference a rule. Thanks in advance.


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There correct answer to your question is as follows:

1) The Rules (NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's) allows Team A's HC to leave Team A's Bench Area to confer with Table Personnel to request a TO with regard to a possible CE (or AP Arrow mistake).

2) Upon being notified of A-HC's request, the Game Officials (GOs) will instruct the Timer to start timing a TO: i) if Team A has any Full TOs the Timer will start timing a Full TO; or ii) if Team A has only Thirty-Second TOs left the Timer will start timing a Thirty-Second TO; or if Team A has no TOs left then the Timer will start timing a Full TO.

3) If there is a CE and it is discovered before the CE time limit has expired, the CE is corrected and Team A is not charged with a TO and the game is resumed immediately.

4a) If there is a CE and it is discovered after the CE time limit has expired, the CE cannot be corrected, and Team A is charged with a TO.

4b) If there is no CE, Team A is charged with a TO.

If 4a or 4b occurs and there is time remaining in the TO, Team A is entitled to the remaining time in the TO based upon whether the TO is either (i), (ii), or (iii).

If 4a or 4b occurs and there is no time remaining in the TO, and the game is resumed immediately.

If (iii) occurs in either 4a or 4b Team A is charged with an excess TO. And the game is resumed with Team B shooting FTs as the result of the TF due to Team A's excess TO.

The applicable NFHS Rules are: R2-S10; R5-S8-A4; and R10-S5-A1c.

MTD, Sr.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

There correct answer to your question is as follows:

1) The Rules (NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's) allows Team A's HC to leave Team A's Bench Area to confer with Table Personnel to request a TO with regard to a possible CE (or AP Arrow mistake).

2) Upon being notified of A-HC's request, the Game Officials (GOs) will instruct the Timer to start timing a TO: i) if Team A has any Full TOs the Timer will start timing a Full TO; or ii) if Team A has only Thirty-Second TOs left the Timer will start timing a Thirty-Second TO; or if Team A has no TOs left then the Timer will start timing a Full TO.

3) If there is a CE and it is discovered before the CE time limit has expired, the CE is corrected and Team A is not charged with a TO and the game is resumed immediately.

4a) If there is a CE and it is discovered after the CE time limit has expired, the CE cannot be corrected, and Team A is charged with a TO.

4b) If there is no CE, Team A is charged with a TO.

If 4a or 4b occurs and there is time remaining in the TO, Team A is entitled to the remaining time in the TO based upon whether the TO is either (i), (ii), or (iii).

If 4a or 4b occurs and there is no time remaining in the TO, and the game is resumed immediately.

If (iii) occurs in either 4a or 4b Team A is charged with an excess TO. And the game is resumed with Team B shooting FTs as the result of the TF due to Team A's excess TO.

The applicable NFHS Rules are: R2-S10; R5-S8-A4; and R10-S5-A1c.

MTD, Sr.

Thank you.

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[BlueDevilRef]

I'm not arguing anyone is right but I do agree that a lot of what I have read on the board, usually from veterans, can come off as condescending. My point would be that officials enough crap on the floor, why have it fly the same on an officials forum?


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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I'm not arguing anyone is right but I do agree that a lot of what I have read on the board, usually from veterans, can come off as condescending. My point would be that officials enough crap on the floor, why have it fly the same on an officials forum?


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There are a lot of officials that are way too sensitive and anything you tell them they cannot get over. This is a forum where we cannot easily write our tone or show you our expressions. There are a lot of officials that want to make everything we talk about personal, when it is simply about the information. But welcome to social media. It has been like this from the very beginning BTW. Another year, another dollar.

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[Geof]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I'm not arguing anyone is right but I do agree that a lot of what I have read on the board, usually from veterans, can come off as condescending. My point would be that officials enough crap on the floor, why have it fly the same on an officials forum?

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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I'm not arguing anyone is right but I do agree that a lot of what I have read on the board, usually from veterans, can come off as condescending. My point would be that officials enough crap on the floor, why have it fly the same on an officials forum?


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Tone is very hard to discern on the InterWebs as Jeff pointed out. I'm always going to be pretty matter of fact, occasionally tinged with a bit of sarcasm. I'm also a proponent of making the questioner (in any type of learning situation) reflect for themselves on possible solutions, or to at least justify the answer they've already given.

Also, I was mentored by guys who would say "WTF are you doing?" or "WTH would you do that?" or "Don't do s**t to f' up the game" or "You didn't think I could handle that play on my own". I didn't come up in a touchy/feely crowd. Oh yeah, plus I spent 22 years in the military after being raised by someone who spent 26 years in the military.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Tone is very hard to discern on the InterWebs as Jeff pointed out. I'm always going to be pretty matter of fact, occasionally tinged with a bit of sarcasm. I'm also a proponent of making the questioner (in any type of learning situation) reflect for themselves on possible solutions, or to at least justify the answer they've already given.

Also, I was mentored by guys who would say "WTF are you doing?" or "WTH would you do that?" or "Don't do s**t to f' up the game" or "You didn't think I could handle that play on my own". I didn't come up in a touchy/feely crowd. Oh yeah, plus I spent 22 years in the military after being raised by someone who spent 26 years in the military.

In my first game of the season Friday night, my crew chief was of those hard a$$ camp evaluators I work in front of every off-season. His personality as a crew chief was totally different. He was positive, encouraging, and confident in our abilities from the pre-game preparations all the way through to the post-game locker room recap. In our pre-game he even acknowledged his camp observer personality and that he not like that outside of the camp environment.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Oh yeah, plus I spent 22 years in the military after being raised by someone who spent 26 years in the military.

Thank you and all others for serving.