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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:35am
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Throw In from Out of Bounds

This happened in a youth game. Player A, who has the ball at her disposal on the baseline, threw a bounce pass into her teammate which bounced on the out of bounds side of the baseline and then to her player/teammate. Legal play? We ruled legal.
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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:48am
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This happened in a youth game. Player A, who has the ball at her disposal on the baseline, threw a bounce pass into her teammate which bounced on the out of bounds side of the baseline and then to her player/teammate. Legal play? We ruled legal.
Not legal. The throw in must go "directly" into court is rule language. Rule 7 towards the end.
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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:55pm
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Concur w/ BigCat. Don't have my book with me, but the thrown ball cannot touch the court OOB before touching or being touched by a player or the court inbounds. The other aspect is the "directly" clause as mentioned.

There is a case play that supports this. I remember reading it before I took the exam the other day.


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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 03:56pm
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Concur w/ BigCat. Don't have my book with me, but the thrown ball cannot touch the court OOB before touching or being touched by a player or the court inbounds. The other aspect is the "directly" clause as mentioned.

There is a case play that supports this. I remember reading it before I took the exam the other day.


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That rule is waived for 7 year-old girls games.
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 12:08pm
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That rule is waived for 7 year-old girls games.
Among other ones.
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:58pm
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:20pm
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What's the NF rule here: team A scores a basket. B1 takes the ball OOB on the endline. B2 is also standing OOB on the endline. B1 can pass the ball to B2 legally, but can the pass be a bounce pass?
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:14pm
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What's the NF rule here: team A scores a basket. B1 takes the ball OOB on the endline. B2 is also standing OOB on the endline. B1 can pass the ball to B2 legally, but can the pass be a bounce pass?
Why not?
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Old Wed Nov 11, 2015, 07:30pm
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What's the NF rule here: team A scores a basket. B1 takes the ball OOB on the endline. B2 is also standing OOB on the endline. B1 can pass the ball to B2 legally, but can the pass be a bounce pass?

Sure he can. That "pass" is not the throw-in. The rule only applies to the throw-in.


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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:00pm
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To take it a step further can't you technically dribble out of bounds if you wanted (the thrower)
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:00pm
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To take it a step further can't you technically dribble out of bounds if you wanted (the thrower)
Technically, no.

You can bounce the ball to yourself, though.
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:17pm
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To take it a step further can't you technically dribble out of bounds if you wanted (the thrower)
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Technically, no.

You can bounce the ball to yourself, though.
And the reason for Bob's answer is that the dribbling and traveling rules don't apply during a throw-in. See the Rules Fundamentals near the back of the book.
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 03:44pm
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Technically, no.

You can bounce the ball to yourself, though.
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And the reason for Bob's answer is that the dribbling and traveling rules don't apply during a throw-in. See the Rules Fundamentals near the back of the book.
Interesting. I always interpreted that to mean the limitations on dribbling don't apply....that a player isn't required to do so legally. But, that it was still a dribble when a player is bouncing the ball but can't commit a dribbling (or traveling) violation.

It is just semantics and we get to the same spot either way, but I've just thought about it differently.
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:58pm
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Interesting. I always interpreted that to mean the limitations on dribbling don't apply....that a player isn't required to do so legally. But, that it was still a dribble when a player is bouncing the ball but can't commit a dribbling (or traveling) violation.

It is just semantics and we get to the same spot either way, but I've just thought about it differently.
Given the relatively recent change in the definition of PC, you are probably right that it doesn't matter.

Before that, though, a player couldn't dribble while OOB (because s/he didn't have PC).
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:39pm
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The title of this thread bothers me, since you wouldn't have an throw-in from inbounds.
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