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Old Tue Nov 10, 2015, 02:44am
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Team B violated, and then the error was discovered, before Team A got possession of the ball for a throw-in. Team A never got possession of the ball, so the was no change of possession.
Possession begins when the infraction occurs. The ball, by rule, at that point, belongs to the team due the ball due the infraction. We just administer it at the time of the throw in.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 07:05pm
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The change of possession. Team B possessed the ball.
If Team A had secured the rebound, there'd have been no change of possession, so you'd just line them up and shoot the second. In this instance, Team A is going to get the ball back (because of the violation by B) after the awarding of the second free throw.
The error occurred when then ball was allowed to remain in play. After the error occurred, only Team B possessed the ball. There was no change in possession.

2-10-6: If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 07:16pm
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After the error occurred, only Team B possessed the ball. There was no change in possession.
Whose ball is it right now? Team A.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 07:21pm
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Team A Never Got Possession Of The Ball ...

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Whose ball is it right now? Team A.
Team A never got possession of the ball for a throwin, plus, if they did, it would be too late for the error to be correctable. The error must be corrected during the dead ball period immediately after Team B violates. If the officials hand to ball to Team A for a throwin, the ball becomes live, and the error is no longer correctable, it's too late to correct.
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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 06:57pm
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2015-16 IAABO Refresher Exam

22. A-1 is fouled in the act of shooting and awarded two free throws. The first free throw is missed and the official allows the ball to remain in play. B-1 rebounds the ball and then commits a violation. The official now recognizes A-1 should have been given another free throw. The official awards A-1 his/her second free throw with no players along the lane and resumes play from the point of interruption. Is the official correct?

Answer Sheet: Yes.

I disagree, and believe that, "No", is the correct answer.

2-10-6: If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).

The situation in the question involves the awarding of a merited free throw to correct the error, and there has been no change of team possession. The official should have awarded A-1 his second free throw with players in the marked lane spaces, as after any free throw attempt.

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B got the rebound and officials let them play on. B then violated. The violation means the ball will be team As. That is why the lane is cleared for A's other free throw. A will get the ball at the spot of the violation.

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Old Mon Nov 09, 2015, 07:06pm
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22. A-1 is fouled in the act of shooting and awarded two free throws. The first free throw is missed and the official allows the ball to remain in play. B-1 rebounds the ball and then commits a violation. The official now recognizes A-1 should have been given another free throw. The official awards A-1 his/her second free throw with no players along the lane and resumes play from the point of interruption. Is the official correct?

Answer Sheet: Yes.

I disagree, and believe that, "No", is the correct answer.

2-10-6: If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).

The situation in the question involves the awarding of a merited free throw to correct the error, and there has been no change of team possession. The official should have awarded A-1 his second free throw with players in the marked lane spaces, as after any free throw attempt.

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Team A attempting the FT and Team B gains control of the rebound. That equals a change of team possession as now the other team has the ball. Therefore, POI is the right place from which to continue after correcting the error.
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Is there anything about ignoring the foul unless it's flagrant?

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Is there anything about ignoring the foul unless it's flagrant?

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Only if the activity actually occurs during the erroneously awarded free throw. I've been part of a crew where we stretched that time frame to the rebounding activity after the free throw ended.

2-10 ART. 4

If the error is a free throw by the wrong player or at the wrong basket, or the awarding of an unmerited free throw, the free throw and the *activity during it, other than unsporting, flagrant, intentional or technical fouls, shall be canceled.

2-10 ART. 5

Points scored, consumed time and additional activity, which may occur prior to the recognition of an error, shall not be nullified...
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:53pm
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Is there anything about ignoring the foul unless it's flagrant?

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Not in this situation. See 2-10 and the differences between "awarding an unmerited FT" and "failing to award a merited FT."
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:33pm
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Not in this situation. See 2-10 and the differences between "awarding an unmerited FT" and "failing to award a merited FT."
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Old Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:54pm
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Is there anything about ignoring the foul unless it's flagrant?

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if its a Ft by wrong player, at wrong basket or unmerited FT "the activity during it is cancelled unless intentional, flagrant etc…
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