NCAAW Shot Clock Violation - Throw In Spot

[bob jenkins]

I know we've discussed this before on the forum.

From the NCAAW Arbiter Site:

QUESTION:

When there is a shot clock violation, either the ball not released prior to the horn, or the ball is released, but does not strike the rim, from where is the ball put back into play? From the end line, or the point closest to where the shooter was located.

ANSWER:

The answer depends upon how the shot-clock violation occurs. If the ball is still in the hand(s) of the shooter when the shot-clock horn sounds, the opponent’s are awarded the ball for a throw-in at the out-of-bounds spot nearest to where the violation occurs (in this case, where the player was standing with the ball in her control). If the try is released, the shot-clock horn sounds and the try fails to strike the ring or flange, then the opponent’s throw-in will be made from the out-of-bounds spot nearest to where the try is unsuccessful.

[johnny d]

So what part is up for discussion? The ruling for both situations sounds reasonable to me.

[bob jenkins]

Some would say that the throw-in spot is from the "shooter's location" in either case (since the ball wasn't released in such a manner to strike the ring, that's the spot of the violation)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Some would say that the throw-in spot is from the "shooter's location" in either case (since the ball wasn't released in such a manner to strike the ring, that's the spot of the violation)

Guess it depends on how we judge the end of the try. Is it when it is obvious that the ball would not hit the ring? Or is it when the ball touches a player or the floor?

[jeschmit]

It's not a violation for when the shooter releases the ball, it's a violation for when it doesn't hit the rim. Put the ball in closest to where the violation occurred.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

It's not a violation for when the shooter releases the ball, it's a violation for when it doesn't hit the rim. Put the ball in closest to where the violation occurred.

Read the definition of ball location. A pass or try in flight has the location of where the ball last touched the court or a player. Therefore an air creates a violation from the location of the shooter.
I believe that we can all agree that the violation occurs before the unsuccessful try strikes the floor or a player standing near the basket.