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Old Mon Sep 28, 2015, 02:44pm
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Confirming our previous answers:

QUESTION:

Concerning the 10 second back court count. With 23 seconds on the shot clock team A is in control of the basketball in their backcourt. A pass is deflected by the defense in the backcourt. The ball travels toward the frontcourt and A.) goes out of bounds on the frontcourt sideline with out touching the front court or B.) touches the frontcourt before going directly out of bounds. Does team A receive a new 10 second count in either case.

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The intent of the rule change in 9-10 is to not provide the team in control with a new ten seconds in the backcourt when there is a new throw-in after the defense caused the ball to go out of bounds, a held ball with no change in team control or a technical foul assessed to the team in control and the team in control had failed to gain frontcourt status by the tenth second. In (a), because the defense caused the ball to go out of bounds and the ball did not gain frontcourt status, if Team A’s throw-in goes into the backcourt, Team A will have three seconds to advance the ball into the frontcourt. In (b), because the ball touched the frontcourt, it gained frontcourt status (Rule 9-12.3.a) before going out of bounds. If Team A’s throw-in goes into the backcourt, Team A will receive a new ten seconds to advance the ball into their frontcourt.

There is no frontcourt or backcourt status during a throw-in. It will be important for officials to discuss this scenario.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2015, 06:37pm
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Confirming our previous answers:

QUESTION:

Concerning the 10 second back court count. With 23 seconds on the shot clock team A is in control of the basketball in their backcourt. A pass is deflected by the defense in the backcourt. The ball travels toward the frontcourt and A.) goes out of bounds on the frontcourt sideline with out touching the front court or B.) touches the frontcourt before going directly out of bounds. Does team A receive a new 10 second count in either case.

ANSWER:

The intent of the rule change in 9-10 is to not provide the team in control with a new ten seconds in the backcourt when there is a new throw-in after the defense caused the ball to go out of bounds, a held ball with no change in team control or a technical foul assessed to the team in control and the team in control had failed to gain frontcourt status by the tenth second. In (a), because the defense caused the ball to go out of bounds and the ball did not gain frontcourt status, if Team A’s throw-in goes into the backcourt, Team A will have three seconds to advance the ball into the frontcourt. In (b), because the ball touched the frontcourt, it gained frontcourt status (Rule 9-12.3.a) before going out of bounds. If Team A’s throw-in goes into the backcourt, Team A will receive a new ten seconds to advance the ball into their frontcourt.
Had this come up in one of our meetings: In scenario (a) after the ball goes out of bounds can team A "buy" a new 10 second count with a time out? (Answer to follow)...
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Had this come up in one of our meetings: In scenario (a) after the ball goes out of bounds can team A "buy" a new 10 second count with a time out? (Answer to follow)...
Yes.
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2015, 11:20pm
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Had this come up in one of our meetings: In scenario (a) after the ball goes out of bounds can team A "buy" a new 10 second count with a time out? (Answer to follow)...
A time out granted to a team in its backcourt always results in a new ten-second count.
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Old Tue Oct 06, 2015, 01:01am
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There's no foolin' you sharpies...

What if the defense calls the timeout?

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Old Tue Oct 06, 2015, 07:54am
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There's no foolin' you sharpies...

What if the defense calls the timeout?
Does the rule say "time out" or "offensive time out"?"

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Old Tue Oct 06, 2015, 07:55am
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There's no foolin' you sharpies...

What if the defense calls the timeout?
No.

Well, unless the offense calls a subsequent one.
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Old Tue Oct 06, 2015, 09:32am
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No.

Well, unless the offense calls a subsequent one.
Of course, there's another layer of intrigue if the time out is granted with 0:59.9 or less in the 4th quarter or overtime.

All of this is going to be a thrill for my GV games in NY. The state is still deciding how many of the rule changes to adopt (I've been told the goal is to bring in as many as possible).
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Old Tue Oct 06, 2015, 10:38am
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Of course, there's another layer of intrigue if the time out is granted with 0:59.9 or less in the 4th quarter or overtime.
Yep.

And in your OP (defense tips the ball, it goes OOB adjacent to the FC) -- can the offense choose to "advance" the ball?

The rule says "out of bounds IN the backcourt" -- and that's a contradiction -- the throw-in is neither in the FC or in the BC.

BTW, if you see Jon at / before your meeting in Philly, tell him he did a great job with his "layered plays" breakout
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