I got thrown out of the game!!!

[Mregor]

I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. This is a rec league. They are not the same as interscholastic ball. Little if any ramifications for their actions. You need the right attitude going in. I think you made several mistakes.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

That is his fourth foul and he goes off whining lol the way to the bench sits down and says, "call it both ways.." I naturally serve a cup of T and go about my business.

Rec league, I don't see this action as T. Easy to ignore and go on.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

loudly to everyone else, "and this serves as everyone else's warning."

Really? Not professional at all. Nothing you said showed this was necessary. Just elevating the situation IMO.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Next play the kid on the bench is still mouthing off. I calmly told him, "I can give you another and you can leave if you want."

Don't engage with a bench. Tell coach to address it but don't address a bench player. T him if you need to but nothing good can come from engaging with bench other than coach.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

We basically had the same conversation in the hall trying to pled my case but it was to no avail.

Why? Would you put shoes back on and go back for more punishment?

Rec leagues are where most of use earned our stripes at one time or another. I sure would never work for a league that didn't back officials but you need to expect difference from organized ball. Fortunately the league I worked was run by good officials and they always backed us. Rich, knows, he worked there in early 2000's with me. But to me, it sounds like you had a chip on your shoulder going in. Players don't want to be shown up any more than we do and confronting them and yelling at them sure isn't earning anyone's respect. You cant demand respect by trying to show up players and hide behind your stripes.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. This is a rec league. They are not the same as interscholastic ball. Little if any ramifications for their actions. You need the right attitude going in. I think you made several mistakes.

Rec league, I don't see this action as T. Easy to ignore and go on.

A T in this league = 2 min sit out. A second one equals ejection and suspension. My attitude was just fine going in. Everyone had been whining the whole game. This player was the worst and both me and my partner had already warned him. And It's Rec ball. No ramifications for the T as it was the last game of the season anyway.

Originally Posted by Mregor

Really? Not professional at all. Nothing you said showed this was necessary. Just elevating the situation IMO.


Don't engage with a bench. Tell coach to address it but don't address a bench player. T him if you need to but nothing good can come from engaging with bench other than coach.

No coaches in this leauge. He was the only sub and only player on the bench.

Originally Posted by Mregor

Why? Would you put shoes back on and go back for more punishment?

Like I said, from the players standpoint, no one had a problem with anything we as a crew were doing except for this dude. Not my assigner, not my partner, not the players. I wasn't having an issue until right then.

Originally Posted by Mregor

Rec leagues are where most of use earned our stripes at one time or another. I sure would never work for a league that didn't back officials but you need to expect difference from organized ball. Fortunately the league I worked was run by good officials and they always backed us. Rich, knows, he worked there in early 2000's with me. But to me, it sounds like you had a chip on your shoulder going in. Players don't want to be shown up any more than we do and confronting them and yelling at them sure isn't earning anyone's respect. You cant demand respect by trying to show up players and hide behind your stripes.

It has been a few months since I worked in this league. Usually the sit for 2 rule is a good sign the league backs officials. The person who ran it before backed us and would have had no problem with what I did. I know because this very thing has happened several times before. Obviously this new guy is an ignoramus and wants to cut the legs off of his officials so it will be an unpleasant experience for everyone.

My assigner backs what I did.

I totally had quit doing all rec ball for ages less than 9th grade and liked working this league for the game management skills I learned. This is the only one I do.

Not quite sure where you think I have a chip on my shoulder. I pride myself in knowing the rules and working very hard to be the best official I can be. Showing him up would have been me sticking him again on the bench or sticking other players for mouthing off any other time. This was routine easy peazy lemon squeezy and he didn't even argue the T.

Now all that has happened is the players now think they can get the referees in trouble by provoking them.
This leauge I'd going down hill fast from here.