Ref walks off court during game

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Man oh man-I could only imagine what would happen if I walked off a volleyball court in the middle of a match like he did.I hope his assignor pulled his remaining assignments because that was an entirely unprofessional action.He should not be out there representing his association if that's how he will act.

[Altor]

Another case where the official is more worried about the post-game ramifications of what he should call rather than taking care of business during the game when he was charged to do so.

States need to drop these automatic suspension rules. Let the officials file a report after a disqualification or ejection and somebody else can determine whether a suspension is truly warranted and for how long.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Altor

Another case where the official is more worried about the post-game ramifications of what he should call rather than taking care of business during the game when he was charged to do so.

States need to drop these automatic suspension rules. Let the officials file a report after a disqualification or ejection and somebody else can determine whether a suspension is truly warranted and for how long.

I do not know if that was the issue or would be the issue. I have no problem with automatic suspensions for getting ejected. There are a lot of officials that have no problem giving Ts and ejecting coaches and players when need be. Also if you do something incorrect, any decision can be reversed in my experience.

Peace

"The situation came to a head when [winning coach] asked [referee] if he could have the same access to the court as [losing coach], who was ignoring the limits of the coaching box."

Are we sure this needs a tech?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by AremRed

"The situation came to a head when [losing coach] asked [referee] if he could have the same access to the court as [winning coach], who was ignoring the limits of the coaching box."

The scenario was exactly the opposite, wasn't it?

Not saying either scenario should result in a T, just want to make sure I'm understanding the real scenario properly.

Regardless of how it turned out, can you imagine just how out of hand the losing coach (Stone) was to even warrant this impromptu stoppage and summit? Sounds like he was ranting, raving, generally acting a fool and making a mockery of things with his behavior to the point the winning coach finally said, "So I guess I can walk all over the court and raise hell every trip too?"

Nothing, however, justifies one member of a crew walking out on his partner(s) and leaving him/them holding the bag.

[deecee]

Reminds me when I was about 5 years in and I met an official with about 20+ years experience who was saying how much coaches loved him. I asked him why that was and we were talking about T's given etc. He told me that in the last 5 years he probably one gave out about 3 T's.

I told him that coaches loved him because they could walk all over him. I then walked away. Ran into him a few years later and he didn't have much to say except that he thought I was an @#$@#. I told him I wish he applied that same logic to the games he worked.

If as an official you don't want to ruffle feathers then you shouldn't ref.

Originally Posted by ODog

The scenario was exactly the opposite, wasn't it?

Fixed, thanks!

Originally Posted by ODog

Regardless of how it turned out, can you imagine just how out of hand the losing coach (Stone) was to even warrant this impromptu stoppage and summit? Sounds like he was ranting, raving, generally acting a fool and making a mockery of things with his behavior to the point the winning coach finally said, "So I guess I can walk all over the court and raise hell every trip too?"

Yeah I agree this is likely what happened. Obviously if the coach starts in on the officials then they gotta take care of business but if he's going nuts on his team then it's a more delicate situation.

Either way, I'm not letting the other coach appeal for punishment for the other guy. A quick "I'll take care of it" usually works for me.

Originally Posted by deecee

Reminds me when I was about 5 years in and I met an official with about 20+ years experience who was saying how much coaches loved him. I asked him why that was and we were talking about T's given etc. He told me that in the last 5 years he probably one gave out about 3 T's.

I told him that coaches loved him because they could walk all over him. I then walked away. Ran into him a few years later and he didn't have much to say except that he thought I was an @#$@#. I told him I wish he applied that same logic to the games he worked.

If as an official you don't want to ruffle feathers then you shouldn't ref.

That's a great story. Refs hold grudges like no other.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by ODog

The scenario was exactly the opposite, wasn't it?

Not saying either scenario should result in a T, just want to make sure I'm understanding the real scenario properly.

Regardless of how it turned out, can you imagine just how out of hand the losing coach (Stone) was to even warrant this impromptu stoppage and summit? Sounds like he was ranting, raving, generally acting a fool and making a mockery of things with his behavior to the point the winning coach finally said, "So I guess I can walk all over the court and raise hell every trip too?"

Nothing, however, justifies one member of a crew walking out on his partner(s) and leaving him/them holding the bag.

It was the losing coach who was out of the coaching box and making a arse of himself. The officials (all of them) screwed up by not penalizing the coach for repeatedly being out of the coaching box. They obviously let too much go for too long in this game before this issue came up.

This official really screwed up though in more ways than one.

In addition to his on court actions he was in clear violation of the MHSAA's media policy by commenting to a reporter about the incident. That is very clearly frowned on by the MHSAA and can (should) result in sanctions from the MHSAA.

This official may be a great official on the court (questionable by what I read about the game), but he certainly needs to do a better job with his handling of people.

I agree with the rest of the commenters that I would not be working with him and would decline assignments if he was listed as a partner, or I would ask to be switched off the game.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not know if that was the issue or would be the issue. I have no problem with automatic suspensions for getting ejected. There are a lot of officials that have no problem giving Ts and ejecting coaches and players when need be. Also if you do something incorrect, any decision can be reversed in my experience.

Peace

In the City of Angels (LA) public league...If a coach is ejected..the game is over and coach automatically sits for next game too. Second Ejection in same season..Coach is done for the year..bye bye