Ballwatching Quiz (Video)

[Freddy]

Q: How many eyes does it take to determine whether an attempt was beyond the arc or not?
A: ?

Got It Covered

[bob jenkins]

Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.

Given the timing of C's signal (almost immediate) and where his head appears to be pointing, I'm thinking he's just looking waaaaay out of his primary.

I'm impressed T was able to see it was a 3 since he's standing about 40 feet away... #AfraidToGetBeatToTheOtherEnd

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

#AfraidToGetBeatToTheOtherEnd

LOL...are we going here now? #ThisAintTwitter

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.

Two of the three were still wrong unless they were using modified mechanics of some sort. Whether a 2 or 3 person crew, the attempt is only indicated by the primary official. Only the completion is mirrored by anyone.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.

This looks like a Men's college game, that is very wrong in Men's mechanics. It is only proper for the Lead to give a signal if they are in transition and giving information for the Trail (or Center) to judge if they have the ball behind the line or not.

Peace

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This looks like a Men's college game, that is very wrong in Men's mechanics. It is only proper for the Lead to give a signal if they are in transition and giving information for the Trail (or Center) to judge if they have the ball behind the line or not.

Peace

Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.

In any case, not very impressive. Hopefully this is just a case of guys with little 3-person experience over-thinking everything. That's a best case scenario.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.

In any case, not very impressive. Hopefully this is just a case of guys with little 3-person experience over-thinking everything. That's a best case scenario.

I did not look that closely after noticing the "University" on the end line or even the paint. But it does look like a RA is there on the floor, the quality of the video is not great, but I see one. It is possible this is a HS game played on a college floor too.

Peace

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.

Was a HS crew on a college floor.
Sad.
That they apparently have no trainer or evaluator to correct them.
That they have an assigner who either wants or needs to use them on a varsity game.
That this passes for acceptable to those who do the ratings.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Was a HS crew on a college floor.
Sad.
That they apparently have no trainer or evaluator to correct them.
That they have an assigner who either wants or needs to use them on a varsity game.
That this passes for acceptable to those who do the ratings.

I think we are assuming an awful lot of stuff here. There are just officials that ball watch and it does not matter how long they have been trained or if they have evaluators correcting their actions. I would not be surprised other than this video that someone was not at this game or even knew this happened unless someone brought it to their attention. And plays like this are not plays a coach would send to the assignor as they probably have no idea what happened on the play that was wrong. It would not have been a call against them.

Peace

[Rich]

The only person I'm really ripping here is the C. The L? Eh, I'm not that bothered by that. Perhaps he works some NCAAW games and simply forgot.

But yes, there are ball-watchers everywhere.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

The only person I'm really ripping here is the C. The L? Eh, I'm not that bothered by that. Perhaps he works some NCAAW games and simply forgot.

But yes, there are ball-watchers everywhere.

I am only ripping L because like we criticize other levels for not knowing the mechanics or using the proper mechanics, that is not the proper mechanics of the NCAAM's side. If he is watching this play, he likely is missing some rebounding action. Maybe take a peek as he could have someone from his primary run at the shooter, but not give the signal. And it would not be a big deal either way, but I wonder what they are watching if this happens often.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Rich

Perhaps he works some NCAAW games and simply forgot.

Okay, I'm confused. Forgot what? If the game was under NF rules - which it appears to have been since the shot-clock never moved - that attempt was in the T's PCA. If the T happened to work NCAAW, he's still permitted to mirror the L's attempt under NCAAW mechanics.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Okay, I'm confused. Forgot what? If the game was under NF rules - which it appears to have been since the shot-clock never moved - that attempt was in the T's PCA. If the T happened to work NCAAW, he's still permitted to mirror the L's attempt under NCAAW mechanics.

You are confused that the L may work NCAA-Women's basketball and therefore is used to marking a 3-point attempt in the corner?

[JRutledge]

What I do not get is why is it hard to forget mechanics from one level to another? They are not that damn different. Heck if I as a football official can know 200 plus different rules or variations, I think anyone can remember a couple of little mechanics differences from college to high school.

Peace