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Old Mon Aug 03, 2015, 07:18am
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Old Mon Aug 03, 2015, 08:36am
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Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.
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Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.
Given the timing of C's signal (almost immediate) and where his head appears to be pointing, I'm thinking he's just looking waaaaay out of his primary.

I'm impressed T was able to see it was a 3 since he's standing about 40 feet away... #AfraidToGetBeatToTheOtherEnd
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Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.
Two of the three were still wrong unless they were using modified mechanics of some sort. Whether a 2 or 3 person crew, the attempt is only indicated by the primary official. Only the completion is mirrored by anyone.
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Is C signaling the 3 (really wrong!), or just mirroring L's signal (wrong for 3-man, but maybe he has lots of 2-man experience).

Whether L should signal and T mirror, or T should signal depends on the mechanics set being used.
This looks like a Men's college game, that is very wrong in Men's mechanics. It is only proper for the Lead to give a signal if they are in transition and giving information for the Trail (or Center) to judge if they have the ball behind the line or not.

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Old Sat Aug 08, 2015, 05:54pm
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This looks like a Men's college game, that is very wrong in Men's mechanics. It is only proper for the Lead to give a signal if they are in transition and giving information for the Trail (or Center) to judge if they have the ball behind the line or not.

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Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.

In any case, not very impressive. Hopefully this is just a case of guys with little 3-person experience over-thinking everything. That's a best case scenario.
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Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.

In any case, not very impressive. Hopefully this is just a case of guys with little 3-person experience over-thinking everything. That's a best case scenario.
I did not look that closely after noticing the "University" on the end line or even the paint. But it does look like a RA is there on the floor, the quality of the video is not great, but I see one. It is possible this is a HS game played on a college floor too.

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Hmmm. Shot clock at zero, and no RA painted on the floor. Maybe an old video? Either way, I think these are HS players on a college floor, and HS officials getting some scrimmage work in.
Was a HS crew on a college floor.
Sad.
That they apparently have no trainer or evaluator to correct them.
That they have an assigner who either wants or needs to use them on a varsity game.
That this passes for acceptable to those who do the ratings.
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Was a HS crew on a college floor.
Sad.
That they apparently have no trainer or evaluator to correct them.
That they have an assigner who either wants or needs to use them on a varsity game.
That this passes for acceptable to those who do the ratings.

I think we are assuming an awful lot of stuff here. There are just officials that ball watch and it does not matter how long they have been trained or if they have evaluators correcting their actions. I would not be surprised other than this video that someone was not at this game or even knew this happened unless someone brought it to their attention. And plays like this are not plays a coach would send to the assignor as they probably have no idea what happened on the play that was wrong. It would not have been a call against them.

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