Weird play in CHC-NYM

What's your ruling?

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/...8183_1200K.mp4

[Rich]

Called correctly eventually. Announcers sure are entertaining.


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[Welpe]

I think most of the discussion revolved around whether or not R2 passed R3. Interesting play.

[Rich]

Shitty end of the stick. Don't pick that up. Call him out for abandonment and move on.


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[Welpe]

I didn't say that is what the call should be. I was just speculating on what I thought most of the discussion was about.

[john5396]

Umpire was wrong to signal out on the first tag.

If he was calling out for passing a preceding runner then he shouldn't have waited for the tag. I agree to not call passing on this, just if he was, he should have called immediately rather than waiting for the fielder's tag.

[JJ]

Hmmm. I've got a double play here. When R3 went back to 3rd he went by R2 on the 2nd base side, so R2 did, in fact, pass R3, so he's out for passing. Then when R3 kept going off the base and was tagged, HE was out because he was tagged while off the base.
I suspect there will be a bunch more discussion on this one in multiple chat rooms. It would be interesting and insightful to find out what the umpires decided on the field and how they explained it to Madden.

JJ

[NR33]

Here's the crew chief's explanation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamRubin...52839171198976

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JJ

Hmmm. I've got a double play here. When R3 went back to 3rd he went by R2 on the 2nd base side, so R2 did, in fact, pass R3, so he's out for passing. Then when R3 kept going off the base and was tagged, HE was out because he was tagged while off the base.
I suspect there will be a bunch more discussion on this one in multiple chat rooms. It would be interesting and insightful to find out what the umpires decided on the field and how they explained it to Madden.

JJ

R3 is not allowed to go back to second, so R2 can't pass R3 when R2 is on the base. If the play started with R1 and R2 and then R2 went toward second, you'd have passing.

It's either an out for abandonment, or an out for more than 3' from a tag attempt -- either would work here.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

R3 is not allowed to go back to second, so R2 can't pass R3 when R2 is on the base. If the play started with R1 and R2 and then R2 went toward second, you'd have passing.

It's either an out for abandonment, or an out for more than 3' from a tag attempt -- either would work here.

OK, but with mine you get a double play....just sayin'....

JJ