interesting run down situation

[BEAREF]

I wouldn't have gotten this call right...

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[youngump]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

I wouldn't have gotten this call right...

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Unless the big diamonds have a rule I don't know, you would have been right there with the third base umpire then.

[nopachunts]

Traded texts with a friend of mine that is a MiLB umpire. He said that R1, Lawrie, was called out because R3, Reyes, had re-acquired third base. If you listen to the annoucers, they got one right. The end of the world must be near.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Traded texts with a friend of mine that is a MiLB umpire. He said that R1, Lawrie, was called out because R3, Reyes, had re-acquired third base. If you listen to the annoucers, they got one right. The end of the world must be near.

They got the rule right, but they missed the play--just like Iassogna.

In that situation, R2 is out when tagged only if R3 and R2 occupy the bag simultaneously. Reyes was clearly off the bag and Lawrie on it when Lawrie was tagged. Lawrie should not have been called out.

[bwburke94]

Lawrie was R1, not R2.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

Lawrie was R1, not R2.

Whether you using the NFHS runner designation or the rest of the worlds runner designation, Lawrie was R2.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Publius

They got the rule right, but they missed the play--just like Iassogna.

In that situation, R2 is out when tagged only if R3 and R2 occupy the bag simultaneously. Reyes was clearly off the bag and Lawrie on it when Lawrie was tagged. Lawrie should not have been called out.

No, Lawrie was out because he could not acquire 3B until Reyes was tagged out before him or aquired HP.

7.03 (a) Two runners may not occupy a base, but if, while the ball is alive, two runners are touching a base, the following runner shall be out when tagged and the preceding runner is entitled to the base, unless Rule 7.03(b) applies.

As stated Reyes was out because he clearly off the bag. Had he tagged Reyes first then Lawrie, Lawrie would have been safe.

[rpumpire]

Originally Posted by jicecone

No, Lawrie was out because he could not acquire 3B until Reyes was tagged out before him or aquired HP.

7.03 (a) Two runners may not occupy a base, but if, while the ball is alive, two runners are touching a base, the following runner shall be out when tagged and the preceding runner is entitled to the base, unless Rule 7.03(b) applies.

As stated Reyes was out because he clearly off the bag. Had he tagged Reyes first then Lawrie, Lawrie would have been safe.

The first part of what you said is not correct. It would mean that any runner could be tagged out while standing on a base if the runner ahead of him hasn't touched the next base or been tagged out?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by jicecone

No, Lawrie was out because he could not acquire 3B until Reyes was tagged out before him or aquired HP.

That's absolutely wrong.

If both runners are on the bag, the following runner is out, no matter what order they're tagged (unless it's a force-play situation, when the preceding runner is out.)

In a non-force situation, if only one runner is on the bag and he's tagged, he's not out. Reyes was entitled to occupy 3rd until he advanced or was put out, but he has to actually be occupying it in order for the following runner who is also occupying it to be put out.