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Old Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:55am
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There's no reason a U2 needs to come inside. It's easy to get a 90-degree angle to the throw on the outside and make a call at second. It's how I umpire when I work U2 in any game, including LL games.

And yet you still see 3 umpires pivoting inside unnecessarily on balls hit to the outfield, when the ideal number doing so would be ZERO.
I've seen worse in a Texas playoff series. It was a third round series which is halfway to the state final.

The four man crew came out dressed in red shirts. The very first batter hit a fly ball to centerfield, and HPU came busting out to the pitcher's mound to make the catch signal.............It was downhill after that. Missed rotations, missed balks, etc.

I was sitting next to the scout/coach for the team the winner would face. I said, "Do you want that same crew for you series?" He shook his head, and said, "No. That is one of the first things I'm going to tell my head coach about. Close plays can go either way, but we at least want somebody that knows where to be on a close play."

I don't blame him.
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Old Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:59pm
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I've seen worse in a Texas playoff series. It was a third round series which is halfway to the state final.

The four man crew came out dressed in red shirts. The very first batter hit a fly ball to centerfield, and HPU came busting out to the pitcher's mound to make the catch signal.............It was downhill after that. Missed rotations, missed balks, etc.

I was sitting next to the scout/coach for the team the winner would face. I said, "Do you want that same crew for you series?" He shook his head, and said, "No. That is one of the first things I'm going to tell my head coach about. Close plays can go either way, but we at least want somebody that knows where to be on a close play."

I don't blame him.
Wondering if this was my "TIE" caller guy from earlier. And I suspect I know who the PU at the mound guy was too.
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Old Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:30pm
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I can't take these guys !!!!!!

Started watching Panama and Puerto Rico yesterday and guy behind dish made me sick........

Passed ball runner scores from third and there is no play on runner, umpire gives us a safe signal......

In 2nd inning kid swings at strike three and umpires "rings him up", wouldn't just a simple closed fist suffice with no theatrics ?????

Am I nit picking ???? Those things make me cringe !!!!!
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Old Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:51pm
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Started watching Panama and Puerto Rico yesterday and guy behind dish made me sick........

Passed ball runner scores from third and there is no play on runner, umpire gives us a safe signal......

In 2nd inning kid swings at strike three and umpires "rings him up", wouldn't just a simple closed fist suffice with no theartrics ?????

Am I knit picking ???? Those things make me cringe !!!!!
That would be "nit" picking
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Old Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:45pm
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That would be "nit" picking
Rightfully deserved !!!!

You got me.......
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Old Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:39am
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This poor codger is an embarrassment. Funny part is, if you watch Jr., Sr. or Big League tourneys, you'll see competent arbiters using standard mechanics.

THE BIG QUESTION: How come THESE guys aren't in W-port? My guess is that they're not old enough, not in with the right crowd, don't have rabbis or are simply JUST TOO GOOD.

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Old Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:56am
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Nowadays, Williamsport could require video of every umpire that was being considered by all the Regionals for TV games. That way they could screen them for mechanics, game management, and if they can see their belt buckle when they look down (or at least their shoes, for Gosh sakes).
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Nowadays, Williamsport could require video of every umpire that was being considered by all the Regionals for TV games. That way they could screen them for mechanics, game management, and if they can see their belt buckle when they look down (or at least their shoes, for Gosh sakes).
Last I knew, all the umpires are nominated by their District Admininstrator, have done numerous District, Divisional, State and Regional Tournaments. They have been seen and everyone knows how they umpire. There are generally no surprises at W'Port. I don't think a guy could become so completely unraveled to the point of incompetence.
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Old Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:55am
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Last I knew, all the umpires are nominated by their District Admininstrator, have done numerous District, Divisional, State and Regional Tournaments. They have been seen and everyone knows how they umpire. There are generally no surprises at W'Port. I don't think a guy could become so completely unraveled to the point of incompetence.
This umpire is not from the US, and I don't know how diligent other countries screen their umpires before nominating them to the different series. Williamsport reserves four of the LLWS umpire slots to international candidates, so some of them may not go through the same thorough process as their US counterparts.
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Old Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:32pm
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This poor codger is an embarrassment. Funny part is, if you watch Jr., Sr. or Big League tourneys, you'll see competent arbiters using standard mechanics.

THE BIG QUESTION: How come THESE guys aren't in W-port? My guess is that they're not old enough, not in with the right crowd, don't have rabbis or are simply JUST TOO GOOD.

Ace
Maybe those guys like working the upper levels more. I know I do. Being picked for Williamsport would be nice but it's not a huge deal for me. I'd rather get to the Word Series for a level I have fun working.

Maybe they were also smart and applied at levels where they knew they'd get picked much quicker. I got my (upper division) regional the second year I put in for it.
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Old Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:28pm
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Jose Canseco seems to agree:

Former MLB slugger Canseco bashes Little League World Series umpires
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Old Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:08pm
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I've seen worse in a Texas playoff series. It was a third round series which is halfway to the state final.

The four man crew came out dressed in red shirts. The very first batter hit a fly ball to centerfield, and HPU came busting out to the pitcher's mound to make the catch signal.............It was downhill after that. Missed rotations, missed balks, etc.

I was sitting next to the scout/coach for the team the winner would face. I said, "Do you want that same crew for you series?" He shook his head, and said, "No. That is one of the first things I'm going to tell my head coach about. Close plays can go either way, but we at least want somebody that knows where to be on a close play."

I don't blame him.
Is there a reason why you wanted to "bad mouth" your "brothers" to the coach? All I can do is shake my head.
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Is there a reason why you wanted to "bad mouth" your "brothers" to the coach? All I can do is shake my head.
I agree, why would you ask a coach that kind of question?
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Old Thu Aug 22, 2013, 10:24am
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Is there a reason why you wanted to "bad mouth" your "brothers" to the coach? All I can do is shake my head.
I only normally try to explain a rule to some people in the stands for the most part. I asked him a question, and it was obvious he knew his stuff. His team were defending state champions in their classification, and they did repeat.

Not all coaches are mentally challenged.

So keep shaking there, boss.
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