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Batter Leaves the batter's box & HBP
I had a gentleman ask me the correct ruling on a situation that happened in one of his lower level high school games last week.
2-2, R2, and 1 out. Pitcher starts his delivery and the batter, without being granted time, steps out of the box with ONE FOOT. The pitcher legally delivers and the pitch strikes the batter. Ruling? Honestly, I'm stretching here a little bit but I believe using the following citations I have a dead-ball (because the pitch touched the batter) and a strikeout. 6-2-4d-1: The umpire shall call the pitch a strike 8-1-1d: a pitched ball hits his person or clothing, provided he does not strike at the ball; or:... if the umpire calls the pitched ball a strike, the hitting of the batter is disregarded except that the ball is dead. What do you all think? -Josh |
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1. If the pitcher, with a runner on base, stops or hesitates in his delivery because the batter steps out of the box (a) with one foot or (b) with both feet or (c) holds up his hand to request "Time," it shall not be a balk. In (a) and (c), there is no penalty on either the batter or the pitcher. The umpire shall call "Time" and begin play anew. In (b), a strike shall be called on the batter for violation of 7-3-1. In (a), (b) and (c), if the pitcher *legally delivers the ball, it shall be called a strike and the ball remains live. Thus, two strikes are called on the batter in (b). If the umpire judges the batter's action to be a deliberate attempt to create a balk, he will penalize according to 3-3-1o. So do we have a dead ball strike? |
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The batter has not violated the batter's box rule, so there is no penalty.
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Tony Carilli |
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NFHS Rule 7-3-1 Penalty
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NFHS Case Book 7-3-1 Situation D Quote:
7-3-1 Situation F Quote:
The batter, in the judgment of the umpire, must delay the game. He has not in original post. He has been hit by the pitch. He goes to first base.
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A) Batter did not step out of the box... B) Batter did not delay the game (the pitcher pitched anyway). You do not (or should not) have a dead ball strike in this situation.
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I sure hope someone from the FED is reading this and will finally get around to changing 6-2-4.
They changed 7-3-1 maybe 10 years ago now to add "and delays the game" but didn't make the corresponding change in 6-2-4. They did come out with some "memo" (I forget the exact format) that indicated it would be changed, but here we sit... |
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I may be impatient but I still have a dead ball strike. The batter did step out with one foot and by rule if the pitcher completes the pitch legally, the pitch is called a strike. If a batter is touched by a pitch, the ball is dead, hence the dead ball strike. That's what I like about you and Rita C, you are teaching me through disagreement.
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(1) The batter shall keep at least one foot in the batter’s box throughout the (viii)The catcher leaves the catcher’s box to give defensive signals.batter’s time at bat, unless one of the following exceptions applies, in which case the batter may leave the batter’s box but not the dirt area surrounding home plate: (i) The batter swings at a pitch; (ii) The batter is forced out of the batter’s box by a pitch; (iii) A member of either team requests and is granted “Time”; (iv) A defensive player attempts a play on a runner at any base; (v) The batter feints a bunt; (vi) A wild pitch or passed ball occurs; (vii) The pitcher leaves the dirt area of the pitching mound after receiving the ball; or |
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The batter did not leave the box. By rule, the batter must exit the box with both feet to have left the box.
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Tony Carilli |
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Exactly. With one foot.
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