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Old Thu Jun 06, 2013, 11:13am
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My two cents:

The president has no authority here. He can't decide not to forfeit the game. The authority to forfeit resides with the game UIC, by LL rule 4.15. Once the forfeit is recorded, the BOD has the authority to review it. But since this was a clear reason to forfeit under 4.15(2)--refuses to continue play unless the game was terminated by the umpire--the BOD has no legitimate reason to nullify the forfeit.

Where was the UIC in all of this? You were the BU, and typically the UIC in LL games is the PU. Why didn't he/she get involved in the discussion? If I were the UIC of this game, I would've gladly told the president that he needs to go away and that this game is forfeited.

As for the recording comment, I wouldn't give two spits about it if all it will show is me glaring at him. This is a common tactic we use to tell players and coaches to STFU. I would be more than happy to explain that to anyone who questions what I was doing.

The letter through the league UIC to the BOD may be appropriate. You could even request an audience with the BOD at their next meeting if you so desire. As for no longer umpiring in the organization, that all depends on how much you enjoy working their games, where you may find work elsewhere, etc. etc. Like Bob P, I've run the gamut of LL involvement from a volunteer umpire thru district UIC, and I know that yours is a thankless job dealing with more than just the occasional bonehead player or coach. But if that's all that's available in your area now, you may be cutting your nose in spite of your face, as they say.
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Old Thu Jun 06, 2013, 11:32am
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To give the short version of the ejection, field has a double first base. F3 fields a grounder and stumbles going to first. He falls onto the white portion, but his glove with the ball inside is over the orange. This is an easy out call. Coach starts arguing that F3 was on the wrong bag and that the rule states he must be on the white. I start to explain the call to him and he says no thanks I want to talk to the head umpire and starts to walk to my partner. My partner quickly directs him away as it is not his call. Coach continues to argue that the call was wrong, ignores my warning that we are not going to argue it anymore, then tells me that the rulebook says white and the player was on orange and that I need to learn the rules. Easy ejection.

I have been a local umpire, assistant league UIC, league UIC, and assistant district UIC in various areas. I have found in strong districts and leagues that enforce the rules things go smoothly. In this particular league, they seem to not enforce the rules apppropritely and that the board is controlled by local politics that think they rule with an iron fist.
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