Assigning playoff umpires in Texas

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

[ODJ]

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ODJ

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

Agreed, I looked but still don't understand what they called and why they placed the runner back on 1B? If it's FPSR then its a DP. If not then the play stands -

These guys were very poor for sure.

Thanks
David

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

That's funny.

Our local HS had game last week and the 1B umpire waited until the 7th inning to balk in the winning run - his call was the F3 didn't have both feet in fair territory - and this was for the North State Championship - hey it gave our team the win - but very poor umpiring for the entire game.

I told my son who plays on our team - you don't call that in 7th inning when he's been doing it the entire game etc., but we'll take the @W

Thanks
David

[RPatrino]

I don't know about you guys, but I have never seen a playoff game with such poor game management in my life. Batters were wandering all over the place, coaches wandered all over the place, the pace was slow as molasses, I just don't get it.

On the FPSR, that was obvious on the video. What I don't understand is how the DC can come onto the field during a LIVE ball and not be ejected. It looked like there were TWO coaches on the field arguing/discussing the call. Very poor indeed. Watching games like this makes my skin crawl.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by David B

That's funny.

Our local HS had game last week and the 1B umpire waited until the 7th inning to balk in the winning run - his call was the F3 didn't have both feet in fair territory - and this was for the North State Championship - hey it gave our team the win - but very poor umpiring for the entire game.

I told my son who plays on our team - you don't call that in 7th inning when he's been doing it the entire game etc., but we'll take the @W

Thanks
David

Good Grief.

You not only don't call it in the 7th inning, you don't call it at all. Make F3 get right, or get a new F3.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by CT1

Good Grief.

You not only don't call it in the 7th inning, you don't call it at all. Make F3 get right, or get a new F3.

If your state uses FED F3 only has to have one foot touching fair territory at TOP.

[David B]

Originally Posted by umpjim

If your state uses FED F3 only has to have one foot touching fair territory at TOP.

Correct and he told the coaches that - we went to game two in the series and U3 balked us in another run and even our coach told me he don't know what the guy did - U3 said he flinched. Then PU called out one of their runners on appeal at 3B on a long fly ball to left field - where i was sitting I had a perfect view and was watching the play and no way he left early - these were young umpires though and as others have mentioned, sometimes the pressure gets to them.

We did lose that game, but getting two runs from "blue" was kind of nice.

Thanks
David

[JRutledge]

Don't we all have different levels of judgment? That is the case in other sports, so why are we surprised in baseball? Some guys are going to call balks more than others. I do not think that is necessarily a bad thing. I would have rather talked a player out of a "technical balk" but would eventually call something that was obvious to me.

Peace

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Don't we all have different levels of judgment? That is the case in other sports, so why are we surprised in baseball? Some guys are going to call balks more than others. I do not think that is necessarily a bad thing. I would have rather talked a player out of a "technical balk" but would eventually call something that was obvious to me.

Peace

I agree, Jeff. Then again, there are balks and then there are elephant balks that aren't discretionary. I would put the one I'm talking about in the latter category, which is why I'm surprised they missed it.

Tim.