Assigning playoff umpires in Texas

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You went to junior high with Earl Strom? WOw.

Earl Campbell, sorry. You might remember him, he played in Houston. LOL

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

No relation to Earl. Went to Junior High with him. He, his brothers, and his mother are GREAT people. He also makes some pretty good hot links. If you watched the Heisman ceremony, he couldn't go up on stage. He can barely walk.

On the weather issue, I don't know who the teams were but last week they started a playoff game in Waco, and in the bottom of the first inning the weather caused the game to be suspended without a chance to be finished on Friday night. They drove to Arlington to finish the game. Otherwise the series would have been a one-game series completed on Saturday. I hope the crews turned in a new pay sheet for mileage.

Anything from the third round up until the state finals is a crap shoot at best. Filled in emergency for an umpire whose wife went into labor early. We went from Grand Prairie, stopped at Tyler, and finished in Kilgore. Long day, and everybody from the teams, fans, and umpires were just flat out exhausted and frustrated.

I attended one AAA playoff game, probably third round, a few years back. The four man crew came out wearing red shirts, and blew rotations. I doubt they will be invited back soon.

From what I've seen from our chapter in the playoffs, it's the same bunch working together. It got to the point that I was tired of giving my money to people that only took care of themselves. I would work the first six weeks, and call it a season.

One year they assigned some that didn't even bother to show for any meetings, and didn't take the state test.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by AllanA

Well my understanding and what I have been told, the coaches send a list to the chapter board of umpires they want. Numbered 1-15 or more. Then the board will try to place the umpires from their list to their playoff game.

Disclaimer:
I am not on the board nor have I sat in on these selection meetings. So I am just relaying third party information.

Allan

Some coaches send in names of people dead, or no longer umpiring. Who knows who does what anymore. All the associations officers do the state semis and finals for the most part.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UMP45

Dash I have him doing a "stop and go".

I don't know what that is.

[BigUmp56]

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

Earl Campbell, sorry. You might remember him, he played in Houston. LOL

What might Earl Campbell have to do with "thunderstroms"

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

Are you asking because you don't know?

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Look at 52:37 of the clip and tell me if you would have balked him there.....


Tim.

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

[ODJ]

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ODJ

How about the FPSR at 26:50. Anything there?

Player gets ejected. And no, he wasn't the one sliding.

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Sure looks like he broke his hands before stepping off.

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

We talked about this elsewhere. Sure looked like a FPSR to me - R1 had to reach for the base with his hand and slid in the direction of the fielder and altered the throw. With a 4-man crew, this is easy for U2 to get -- he has no other job.

I hadn't watched the aftermath before now. What a circus. I'm not sure which player got ejected, but I know #5 (spiking the ball) should've been and the head coach should've been run when he walked over to second and pointed at the slide mark -- missed call notwithstanding.

I'm not sure why these guys were chosen, but I just don't feel (watching a few minutes of this game) they were the strongest umpires that could've worked these games. If they are, it doesn't say much about the state of umpiring in this area.

Agreed, I looked but still don't understand what they called and why they placed the runner back on 1B? If it's FPSR then its a DP. If not then the play stands -

These guys were very poor for sure.

Thanks
David

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich

He balked. But they were saving their balk until it could end the game.

That's funny.

Our local HS had game last week and the 1B umpire waited until the 7th inning to balk in the winning run - his call was the F3 didn't have both feet in fair territory - and this was for the North State Championship - hey it gave our team the win - but very poor umpiring for the entire game.

I told my son who plays on our team - you don't call that in 7th inning when he's been doing it the entire game etc., but we'll take the @W

Thanks
David

[RPatrino]

I don't know about you guys, but I have never seen a playoff game with such poor game management in my life. Batters were wandering all over the place, coaches wandered all over the place, the pace was slow as molasses, I just don't get it.

On the FPSR, that was obvious on the video. What I don't understand is how the DC can come onto the field during a LIVE ball and not be ejected. It looked like there were TWO coaches on the field arguing/discussing the call. Very poor indeed. Watching games like this makes my skin crawl.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by David B

That's funny.

Our local HS had game last week and the 1B umpire waited until the 7th inning to balk in the winning run - his call was the F3 didn't have both feet in fair territory - and this was for the North State Championship - hey it gave our team the win - but very poor umpiring for the entire game.

I told my son who plays on our team - you don't call that in 7th inning when he's been doing it the entire game etc., but we'll take the @W

Thanks
David

Good Grief.

You not only don't call it in the 7th inning, you don't call it at all. Make F3 get right, or get a new F3.