3rd to 1st Move Becomes a Balk

[egj13]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Ah. Well, at least we now understand your comment that it was not being called correctly. It's because you don't understand the rule in the first place. Glad that's cleared up.

MD...how the hell can you not read the comment from the MLB rule book and see that I am the only one on this board that DOES know what the rule says?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by egj13

MD...how the hell can you not read the comment from the MLB rule book and see that I am the only one on this board that DOES know what the rule says?

In my experience, if 99% of the people are saying one thing, and one person is saying something different, it's the one that's wrong 99% of the time. If you find yourself thinking you're the only one on this board that knows something, I guarantee you that you're wrong.

I read the comment from the MLB rule book. It does not refer to what you seem to think it does. It refers to a move that I believe I can safely assume NONE of us has ever seen anyone try.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

In my experience, if 99% of the people are saying one thing, and one person is saying something different, it's the one that's wrong 99% of the time. If you find yourself thinking you're the only one on this board that knows something, I guarantee you that you're wrong.

I read the comment from the MLB rule book. It does not refer to what you seem to think it does. It refers to a move that I believe I can safely assume NONE of us has ever seen anyone try.

I am sorry that you don't understand...I do find it hard to believe that you would believe that MLB would put an example in the rule book that is impossible to do...why would they put that in there?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by egj13

MD...how the hell can you not read the comment from the MLB rule book and see that I am the only one on this board that DOES know what the rule says?

Originally Posted by egj13

I am sorry that you don't understand...I do find it hard to believe that you would believe that MLB would put an example in the rule book that is impossible to do...why would they put that in there?

Add me into the camp that says you're wrong. The balk in the 3rd to 1st move is if the pitcher doesn't disengage his pivot foot from the rubber before throwing to first. (Or if he doesn't gain distance and direction to third on the feint) If he steps to 3rd and then disengages, he can throw or feint wherever he wants at that point.

[Mrumpiresir]

egj13, you are flat wrong. Listen to the veterans on the board who have tried to gently let you know you are wrong. Get some experience and read the rulebook before posting your incorrect "knowledge".

[egj13]

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir

egj13, you are flat wrong. Listen to the veterans on the board who have tried to gently let you know you are wrong. Get some experience and read the rulebook before posting your incorrect "knowledge".

I will add you to the camp that has no idea what he is talking about...

By the way I am just as veteran as most people on this board...

[Mrumpiresir]

Originally Posted by egj13

I will add you to the camp that has no idea what he is talking about...

So you are the only one that is correct and everyone else is wrong?

Originally Posted by egj13

By the way I am just as veteran as most people on this board...

Doesn't sound like it

[egj13]

Here is what everyone is missing I think...

"it is obviously an attempt to deceive the runner at first base, and in such a move it is practically impossible to step directly toward first base before the throw to first base, and such a move shall be called a balk".

Look I don't know how you guys don't see this and I don't care really. It isn't a rule anymore anyway. The only reason I am so adamant on this is because of a discussion last year with the MLB umpire dad I was talking about earlier. This is exactly how his son explained it to him and how he explained it to me. The deception of the play is what is the balk...when you step toward third, then spin on that front foot to throw to first the deception of the play EVEN THOUGH YOUR FOOT HAS DISENGAGED THE RUBBER is what makes the move a balk. Now if you step towards 3rd, disengage, turn and STEP towards first it isnt a balk. Like I said this is an intrepretation straight from an MLB umpire. You all can take it or leave it I don't care.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir

So you are the only one that is correct and everyone else is wrong?

Yes

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by egj13

I will add you to the camp that has no idea what he is talking about...

By the way I am just as veteran as most people on this board...

You could be the most senior person this board, the internet, and the entire sport has ever seen, but you are not correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by egj13

I will add you to the camp that has no idea what he is talking about...

By the way I am just as veteran as most people on this board...

Some people have one year of experience 25 times over.

[Mrumpiresir]

Originally Posted by Rich

Some people have one year of experience 25 times over.

You know, people can be enlightened if they are simply ignorant of a rule and willing to listen. But there is no fixing stupid.