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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 08:08pm
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Ichiro Suzuki- out of baseline ?- O's game

Ichiro just scored in the Yanks-O's game and I thought he had clearly gone further than 3ft from the foul line in avoiding the tag at home. Opinions ?
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 08:17pm
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He ran so wide of the attempted tag he ran back side of the RH batter's box and back edge of the umpire's box and then came back at the plate from the LH batter's box. Should have been easy call. 3' wide should apply to the attempted tag out of his path, not the foul line, but still, it appeared more like 6'+ of that too. No one seems too concerned, announcers did not mention and defensive manager discussion was mild.

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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 08:35pm
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Here is a GIF of the play.


http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...-1-10-8-12.gif
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 08:44pm
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Probably did exceed the 3 ft limit.
Rarely enforced around the plate at MLB level.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 08:46pm
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At the time of the tag attempt, he was within his 3' lane IMO. Where he ends up after it is complete is irrelevant. F2 was not chasing him with the tag. The tag attempt was less than a second long. At the moment of the attempt, he was still within 3'. F2 just missed.
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The tag attempt was continuous throughout the play
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Gotta give em both credit for a great effort!
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 10:39pm
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The tag attempt was continuous throughout the play
There were two attempts and he appears to be within on both.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2012, 11:09pm
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I'm an Orioles fan, but I have to say, good call by Angel.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 01:11am
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That's just a great baseball play. Incredible hustle by both players and the umpire.

Sometimes this game really is fun to watch.

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I think if it had been an Oriole trying to score, and the O's still win by 1, the media would have made a bigger deal out of it.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 06:30am
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BTW, I thought this was an egregiously bad call. Look at the advantage Ichiro gained. But once again, he's a Yankee, they lost and NO ONE in the media had a quibble.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 07:54am
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Ichiro just scored in the Yanks-O's game and I thought he had clearly gone further than 3ft from the foul line in avoiding the tag at home. Opinions ?
Any runner is out when—
(a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged
unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A
runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight
line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely;

You can't apply this to a fielder that is front of home plate and then has to dive in order to get to the runner's baseline, then misses. After that, as long as the runner is not running all over the place, what you have is two good efforts. Sometimes you just have to umpire.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2012, 08:09am
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The tag attempt was continuous throughout the play
No it wasn't. Just watch the video that APG embeded. Wieters missed with his initial tag attempt, went down on all fours, then crawled to reach Ichiro for the next tag attempt. How can he be attempting a tag while he was crawling and he was more than ten feet away from the runner while doing so?

I thought the call was fine, and I'm not a Yankees fan. I'm not even an Angel Hernandez fan.
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