Ichiro Suzuki- out of baseline ?- O's game

[DUNDALKCHOPPER]

Ichiro just scored in the Yanks-O's game and I thought he had clearly gone further than 3ft from the foul line in avoiding the tag at home. Opinions ?

[DG]

He ran so wide of the attempted tag he ran back side of the RH batter's box and back edge of the umpire's box and then came back at the plate from the LH batter's box. Should have been easy call. 3' wide should apply to the attempted tag out of his path, not the foul line, but still, it appeared more like 6'+ of that too. No one seems too concerned, announcers did not mention and defensive manager discussion was mild.

[Spence]

Here is a GIF of the play.


http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...-1-10-8-12.gif

[rbmartin]

Probably did exceed the 3 ft limit.
Rarely enforced around the plate at MLB level.

[APG]

[GA Umpire]

At the time of the tag attempt, he was within his 3' lane IMO. Where he ends up after it is complete is irrelevant. F2 was not chasing him with the tag. The tag attempt was less than a second long. At the moment of the attempt, he was still within 3'. F2 just missed.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by DUNDALKCHOPPER

Ichiro just scored in the Yanks-O's game and I thought he had clearly gone further than 3ft from the foul line in avoiding the tag at home. Opinions ?

Any runner is out when—
(a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged
unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A
runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight
line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely;

You can't apply this to a fielder that is front of home plate and then has to dive in order to get to the runner's baseline, then misses. After that, as long as the runner is not running all over the place, what you have is two good efforts. Sometimes you just have to umpire.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by DUNDALKCHOPPER

Ichiro just scored in the Yanks-O's game and I thought he had clearly gone further than 3ft from the foul line in avoiding the tag at home. Opinions ?

A common rules myth. That chalk line, or the direct line between bases, has nothing to do with making that call. It's the line the runner is taking to the base, at the point of the attempted tag on him by the defender. Suzuki was wide already, and went wider when he saw the catcher grabbing the ball. So, you have to judge 3+ feet more when that initial stab was made.

I thought it was great footwork by the PU to circle around, and keep moving for a better angle throughout that play. Whether he ended up with safe or out, he really worked hard to get a good look at it. That should end up in a training video, with all that went on there.