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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 11:20am
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I see your point, Manny. To me, I looked liked they skipped U1 stepping back and calling "No catch", and fastforwarded to the Crew Chief explaining what happened.
Kyle, that's possible. But I'm sure Tracy would have jumped out of the dugout the moment U1 gave a "No Catch", and not wait for U3 to call him.

But, hey, these guys are at the pinnacle of their craft. They can do whatever they blinking want!
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 12:48pm
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Kyle, that's possible. But I'm sure Tracy would have jumped out of the dugout the moment U1 gave a "No Catch", and not wait for U3 to call him.

But, hey, these guys . They can do whatever they blinking want!
I think they did what they had to and given their experience and their best observation of what happened, (they didn't get the chance to watch 5 tmes like I did and I still can't tell), the correct call was made for that situation.

I don't believe for one minute that they can do whatever they want but, they "are at the pinnacle of their craft" and thats something everyone of us wish we could be at also. Unfortunately though, as many wish, perfection will never happen.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 12:56pm
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I just can't believe that U3 was so certain it bounced that he was able to convince U1 to overturn the call.

Love Vin Scully. It's a crying shame I can't get the Dodger broadcasts where I live without going through MLB TV.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 10:32pm
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First time I saw it, I thought no catch.

Slo mo just confirmed it.

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Old Thu Aug 09, 2012, 12:38am
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Not a catch.

Look at 5:10 - 5:15 in this video: Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | COL@LAD: Tracy gets ejected after animated argument - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2012, 01:14am
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yep this angle shows it clearly hitting the grass. Not pretty but they got it right!

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Old Thu Aug 09, 2012, 12:54pm
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yep this angle shows it clearly hitting the grass. Not pretty but they got it right!

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Old Thu Aug 09, 2012, 02:42pm
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Yeah, but there's no way that U3 could see that definitively. He might've seen a change in direction in the ball's travel, but that change could've happened with the ball hitting the glove's webbing instead of the ground (and until you provided this video clip, that's what it looked like).

What this clip also showed was that U1 never changed his initial call. After U3 left the crew discussion to inform the manager of the decision, the camera stayed on the remaining three umpires. The impression I got was that U1 wasn't happy with the reversal.
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Old Thu Aug 09, 2012, 03:02pm
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...The impression I got was that U1 wasn't happy with the reversal.
Question on MLB protocol on such things... Doesn't the calling umpire have to agree for the call to be reversed?
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