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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 07:20am
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He Really Saw This?!

Even with slo-mo, it's too hard to tell.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23688533

I'm guessing U3 changed U1's call here. But, man, that's a tough sell.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 07:46am
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Its hard to tell even with the replay whether it bounced off the ground or his glove webbing, I agree but, you are paid to make a decsion. Your either going to throw out the DHC or the OHC but, someone is not going to agree with your decision.

That is truly the human part of the game that will never change.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 08:27am
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Its hard to tell even with the replay whether it bounced off the ground or his glove webbing, I agree but, you are paid to make a decsion. Your either going to throw out the DHC or the OHC but, someone is not going to agree with your decision.

That is truly the human part of the game that will never change.
I don't think anyone had to go here. The covering official makes his best call, and away we go.

The Rockies skipper ejected himself by the manner in which he objected to one official changing another's call, which you have to admit was kinda bogus.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 08:34am
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I don't think anyone had to go here. The covering official makes his best call, and away we go.

The Rockies skipper ejected himself by the manner in which he objected to one official changing another's call, which you have to admit was kinda bogus.
I confess that even with my "Don't yell at the umpire" mentality, if I were coaching a game and this happened, I'd end up ejecting myself as well. The overrule was not only wrong, it was in contravention to the rules.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 09:02am
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I confess that even with my "Don't yell at the umpire" mentality, if I were coaching a game and this happened, I'd end up ejecting myself as well. The overrule was not only wrong, it was in contravention to the rules.
I couldn't quite make out what happened in the umpire powwow. U3 might have "given more info" to U1 and let him change his call, and then he might have taken the heat for the changed call because he was senior. Nothing against the rules in any of that.

I agree that it didn't really LOOK like that happened.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 09:49am
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First, I love Vin Scully. Every game he broadcasts is a treat, and we should enjoy his voice, just like we did Chick Hearn with the Lakers. It's HoF stuff on a daily basis.

Man, even with HD slow mo, you can't really tell if it hits the edge of the web, and bounce up, or it's the ground. The old rule of thumb is if it bounces up, it must have hit the ground first. That's probably what they went with.

I've got no problem with the call, the meeting, the reversal or the EJ. That's all by the book, with everyone doing their job properly. Tracy had to get himself run in that situation. That's baseball.

I still love Vin reading lips, and translating, though.

I didn't see anyone overruling a call out there. Just a request to get help, a conference, and then a decision. SOP, fellas.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 08:43am
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Its hard to tell even with the replay whether it bounced off the ground or his glove webbing, I agree but, you are paid to make a decsion. Your either going to throw out the DHC or the OHC but, someone is not going to agree with your decision.

That is truly the human part of the game that will never change.
I am leaning towards it being a trap, but I cannot say definitively. Tough call in real time either way.

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