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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 04:56pm
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tcarilli,

Why are we even having this conversation? Did I change your mind?

I don't know who you are. I honestly do not care who you are and that is if I ever go back to baseball in any serious way I you are not likely going to be there either.

It is really time to move on. I still think the BU can make a interference call in a rare situation and certainly if the PU is watching other things. And I really believe this if there are more umpires on the field. Now what do you want to talk about?

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You made me think and engage an idea. I'm sorry the only way you find this type of activity worth while is to win, ie, change my mind. I find thinking and seriously engaging ideas to be worthy endeavors.

In the end it appears to me that what you want to do is pontificate. I understand and respect that.
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 05:01pm
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You made me think and engage an idea. I'm sorry the only way you find this type of activity worth while is to win, ie, change my mind. I find thinking and seriously engaging ideas to be worthy endeavors.

In the end it appears to me that what you want to do is pontificate. I understand and respect that.
Again, why are we continuing this conversation again?

Are you not secure in your own experience and training to do what you feel is right? That is all that should really matter to you. But instead you are worried about what I have to say (a guy you will never work with).

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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 05:19pm
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Again, why are we continuing this conversation again?

Are you not secure in your own experience and training to do what you feel is right? That is all that should really matter to you. But instead you are worried about what I have to say (a guy you will never work with).

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This is a provincial way to move through life, to start with the premise that if I haven't worked with someone, he or his thoughts are unimportant prima facie. By implication, when I go to clinics taught by individuals with whom I have never worked or will never work, I shouldn't listen to them. That would make it very difficult for someone new to officiating to learn much wouldn't it?


Could the same question be asked of you?
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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 06:10pm
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This is a provincial way to move through life, to start with the premise that if I haven't worked with someone, he or his thoughts are unimportant prima facie. By implication, when I go to clinics taught by individuals with whom I have never worked or will never work, I shouldn't listen to them. That would make it very difficult for someone new to officiating to learn much wouldn't it?


Could the same question be asked of you?
OK man. LOL!!! You will never get it.

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Old Tue Aug 07, 2012, 06:37pm
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OK man. LOL!!! You will never get it.

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I won't ever get it? I get it completely.

You want to pontificate.

You are not interested in opinions other than yours and those you have worked with, the rest of the world be damned.

If someone who disagrees with doesn't immediately change is his mind due to your encyclical, then the conversation should be over.

Baseball guys will never be as enlightened as the vastly superior basketball and football guys.

If you don't know someone, what he says can't possibly be worth anything.

You have worked for many, many years at exceedingly high levels and that fact alone should be sufficient for agreement with you.

And should you ever return to high levels of baseball you won't meet me because I have no chance of being there.

I get it, loud and clear.
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Old Wed Aug 08, 2012, 12:00am
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I won't ever get it? I get it completely.

You want to pontificate.

You are not interested in opinions other than yours and those you have worked with, the rest of the world be damned.

If someone who disagrees with doesn't immediately change is his mind due to your encyclical, then the conversation should be over.

Baseball guys will never be as enlightened as the vastly superior basketball and football guys.

If you don't know someone, what he says can't possibly be worth anything.

You have worked for many, many years at exceedingly high levels and that fact alone should be sufficient for agreement with you.

And should you ever return to high levels of baseball you won't meet me because I have no chance of being there.

I get it, loud and clear.
Here is why I said you do not get it. It you do not get it because what I say or what you say is only worth what others want to use. Have you ever heard of the term, "Picking up pennies?" That means if someone gives you a dollar of information and all you pick up is a penny or two, you have learned a lot. Not everything someone says has value to you in total or that you will agree with most of what is said. You only need to pick up pennies and take away the little that works and throw out the rest. If I said nothing you agree with I am OK with that fact. I was not honestly trying to teach you anything because I am secure in my thinking and you have to learn what works for you most of all. I thought you were smart enough to realize that what I was saying applies to me. Apparently you are not what I thought you were or I gave you more credit than I should have.

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