Taking signs off the rubber.

[thumpferee]

1. When I'm on the bases, I usually let my partner handle that. I tend to start paying attention to the pitcher when he toes the rubber. If there is no infraction, there's nothing to call or say.
2. No. I may have told a catcher or two to slow him down.
3. I would have called time and ran over and called him out away from prying ears and told him a a polite way, "coach, I'm not gonna listen to you from 150ft away. If you have a question for us, we have time between innings. If we see an infraction, we'll call it, OK". Then pat him on his back and run away. (maybe not)

[mbyron]

First time: "He's OK, coach." I'm not holding a rules clinic, nor arguing about interpretations. I might add a sentence of explanation if he gets off his butt and asks nicely.

Second time: "I said he's OK, coach, now that's enough."

Third time: "Coach you're restricted/ejected."

You found a coach who has a little rules knowledge. And we all know about having a little knowledge.

[mbyron]

FED 6-1-1: "He shall take his sign from the catcher with his pivot foot in contact with the pitcher’s plate."

The only penalty specified for all of article 1 is a balk/ball for an illegal pitch. Since this provision does not mention a pitch, it is not subject to that penalty. Hence, there is no penalty for this "infraction."

The purpose of the rule is to prevent quick pitches. If he's not quick pitching, he's OK. Don't pick boogers.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I am only addressing NFHS Baseball Rules.

Let us review the fundamentals.

1) When is F1 an Infielder and when is F1 a Pitcher? Answer: F1 is an IF when he is not in contact with the Pitcher's Plate, and he is a Pitcher when he is intentionally in contact with the Pitcher's Plate.

2) When are the Pitching Rules in Effect? Answer: When F1 is intentionally in contact with the PPLT.

Therefore, when F1 is an IF (meaning he is not intentionally in contact with the PPLT), he can take signs from any one, any where. When F1 is the P, he shall take or simulate taking his signs from F2 while in contact with the PPLT.

The purpose NFHS R6-S1-A1 is to insure that the P does not quick pitch.

MTD, Sr.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The purpose NFHS R6-S1-A1 is to insure that the P does not quick pitch.

That's the umpires job.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

That's the umpires job.

Steve:

What is the penalty for a quick pitch?

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I am only addressing NFHS Baseball Rules.

Let us review the fundamentals.

1) When is F1 an Infielder and when is F1 a Pitcher? Answer: F1 is an IF when he is not in contact with the Pitcher's Plate, and he is a Pitcher when he is intentionally in contact with the Pitcher's Plate.

2) When are the Pitching Rules in Effect? Answer: When F1 is intentionally in contact with the PPLT.

Therefore, when F1 is an IF (meaning he is not intentionally in contact with the PPLT), he can take signs from any one, any where. When F1 is the P, he shall take or simulate taking his signs from F2 while in contact with the PPLT.

The purpose NFHS R6-S1-A1 is to insure that the P does not quick pitch.

MTD, Sr.

Steve:

I agree that the rule is not well written, but what I have written above is the correct ruling. A former member of the NFHS Baseball Rules Committee has told me so. The intent of the rule is to keep the Pitcher from just engaging the Pitcher's Plate and then immediately start his pitching motion.

MTD, Sr.

[Steven Tyler]

I understand except for the two goofs who were trying to stir things up.

[jwwashburn]

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