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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:41pm
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Update - I did contact the AD who forwarded my email to the head of baseball in the state to see if it would change anything. He got almost an instant call back and was told that the MHSAA doesn't want to get into "reviewing ejections of players" and that since the kid was ejected, he must serve the entire suspension.

I'm willing to bet that this kid never tries a fake tag again!
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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:42pm
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I wonder why a fake tag wouldn't get you run in a FED game. It certainly might in an OBR based game, as it is considered UC.

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Old Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:54pm
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I wonder why a fake tag wouldn't get you run in a FED game. It certainly might in an OBR based game, as it is considered UC.

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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 11:25am
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2012, 11:35am
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 12:46am
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i wonder why a fake tag wouldn't get you run in a fed game. It certainly might in an obr based game, as it is considered uc.

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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 01:36am
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In most youth and amateur adult baseball leagues that are OBR based, fake tags are not allowed and considered unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 08:30am
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In most youth and amateur adult baseball leagues that are OBR based, fake tags are not allowed and considered unsportsmanlike conduct.
In LL it's just obstruction, not UC and not an ejection.

I'll check on a few others where I can reach the rules.

Searched on fake, tag, fake tag

Dixie - no prohibition for fake tag

USSSA - no prohibition for fake tag

PONY - no prohibition for fake tag
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:23pm
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In LL it's just obstruction, not UC and not an ejection.

I'll check on a few others where I can reach the rules.

Searched on fake, tag, fake tag

Dixie - no prohibition for fake tag

USSSA - no prohibition for fake tag

PONY - no prohibition for fake tag
I think its Dixie Boys and Majors that puts this in the back of the book as an unsportsmanlike conduct situation, but NOT an ejection. You tell them to knock it off and move on.

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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 02:37pm
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I think its Dixie Boys and Majors that puts this in the back of the book as an unsportsmanlike conduct situation, but NOT an ejection. You tell them to knock it off and move on.

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Perhaps Dixie has a different option for UC.

Look, I get this probably just in need of a warning, "don't do that again", etc. But we don't know what led up to it to the EJ. Maybe it was third time in the game he did it.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 09:13pm
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In LL it's just obstruction, not UC and not an ejection.

I'll check on a few others where I can reach the rules.

Searched on fake, tag, fake tag

Dixie - no prohibition for fake tag

USSSA - no prohibition for fake tag

PONY - no prohibition for fake tag
Notice I said "adult" in my post. Did you check out NABA? Or SDABL, the San Diego NABA league? Or MSBL? Fake tags are dangerous, cause people to injure themselves, and adult ballplayers have to go to work on Monday. Kids heal much quicker.
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Old Sat Apr 28, 2012, 09:26pm
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From SDABL rules:

DEFENSE PLAYER GUIDELINES (To Avoid Violating the No Collision Rule):
  • Whether right at the base or home, or if you are up the line from any base or home---stay out of the runner’s way if you do not have possession of the ball or if you are not (obviously) about to receive it. If you are in the way, you will be guilty of Obstruction if there is contact with the runner or if the runner has to go around you to avoid a collision.
  • If any Defensive Player, while not in possession of the ball or not about to receive it, purposely puts himself in the way of any runner at the last moment for the purpose of not only stopping the runner’s progress, but also in the “hopes” of having the umpire “blame” the runner for any stand-up collision that occurs, will be cited for violation of the No Collision Rule. The Defensive Player will be immediately ejected and may be subject to suspension upon investigation.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:18pm
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In most youth and amateur adult baseball leagues that are OBR based, fake tags are not allowed and considered unsportsmanlike conduct.
I like you Steve, I really do. But it's hasty and easily to disprove posts like this that get Mr. Tyler and SA excited. Slow down.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2012, 03:14pm
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I like you Steve, I really do. But it's hasty and easily to disprove posts like this that get Mr. Tyler and SA excited. Slow down.
Let me then amend the statement. It should be considered unsportsmanlike conduct in any amateur baseball league, because it can cause easily avoided unnecessary injuries, and the rules need to reflect it, although many do not.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2012, 03:53pm
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Easy now, fellas. Some of us have day jobs, and don't do FED games. Sorry I missed that one.
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