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Old Fri Apr 20, 2012, 09:57pm
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In over 30 years, I have never tossed a player for jewelry. I tell them that when they go back in the dugout, make the necklace (or whatever) gone so I do not see it again. Only once, I had to refer to a coach to take care of the problem.

Yes, I know that it is a safety issue but I am not ejecting a player for it. I will just make sure that the offending material is either gone or invisible.
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But that's the thing: from what I can remember of the story and some of the other commentary, this player was told more than once about the necklace, and yet came back out on the field. (And from some accounts, the player in question is one of those who feels his excrement does not smell, in a manner of speaking.)

So the ump in question dumped him. From what you wrote, that's the point where the coach would have been called into it. Don't know if his coach would have done the right thing, or decided to "fight for his player," or what.

This was a game from where I lived, but not where I umpired, so I can't anything from personal experience about the player or the umpires in question. But it certainly caused a stir.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:03pm
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I quietly tell them to take it off and they do. If I see it between innings as they come off the field I tell the coach to take care of it.

If the field ump told the player and did not make it official by telling the coach then I don't see how this could be ruled a correct ejection, since rules procedures were not followed.

I have never seen an ejection for jewelry, by anyone. I also don't see the safety issue.
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Old Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:29pm
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I quietly tell them to take it off and they do. If I see it between innings as they come off the field I tell the coach to take care of it.

If the field ump told the player and did not make it official by telling the coach then I don't see how this could be ruled a correct ejection, since rules procedures were not followed.

I have never seen an ejection for jewelry, by anyone. I also don't see the safety issue.
Maybe not, but I sure as heck don't want to work games with players wearing a Mr. T starter kit.
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:01am
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I also don't see the safety issue.
A ring caught between a fastball and the bat can be pretty ugly. And we all know getting hit in the "jewels" really hurts.
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 12:58am
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I have never seen an ejection for jewelry, by anyone. I also don't see the safety issue.
Do a Google Image search for "degloving."
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 05:29pm
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Do a Google Image search for "degloving."
And this happens with a phiten or Livestrong how?
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 06:52pm
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And this happens with a phiten or Livestrong how?
With a Livestrong it's probably hard to deglove, but defiantly possible to constrict, tourniquet style. I've seen some crazy stuff on ambulances...

Plus, do you really want to get into large lists of what kinds of jewelry's are legal and aren't. It'll be like the bat lists. If it's plastic and 1" it's okay, 2" it's not, get out your ruler. Just say none, makes life SO much easier.
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:31pm
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With a Livestrong it's probably hard to deglove, but defiantly possible to constrict, tourniquet style. I've seen some crazy stuff on ambulances...

Plus, do you really want to get into large lists of what kinds of jewelry's are legal and aren't. It'll be like the bat lists. If it's plastic and 1" it's okay, 2" it's not, get out your ruler. Just say none, makes life SO much easier.
No, I would rather just forget about jewelry as a rule to enforce.

If reducing injury is the ultimate goal, then all players must wear cups, face masks are required on batting helmets, bats would be wood, no sliding is allowed, metal spikes are borbidden, and pitchers who hit a batter must be removed. These "rules" would provide infinitely more safety to players than banning jewelry.
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Old Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:39pm
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No, I would rather just forget about jewelry as a rule to enforce.

If reducing injury is the ultimate goal, then all players must wear cups, face masks are required on batting helmets, bats would be wood, no sliding is allowed, metal spikes are borbidden, and pitchers who hit a batter must be removed. These "rules" would provide infinitely more safety to players than banning jewelry.
I don't know too many players that don't wear cups.

Visible chains can reflect sunlight directly into a batter or fielder's eyes and can lead to not seeing a ball heading directly at their noggin.
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Old Mon Apr 23, 2012, 08:30am
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I have never seen an ejection for jewelry, by anyone. I also don't see the safety issue.
As one who has seen a cleat yank out an earring, I certainly do.
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I have a substantial problem with WWJD plastic bracelets, especially the pink ones.


But I digress...
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Has anyone else been getting PMs from BestUmp recently?

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