Appeal or Out

[RadioBlue]

9.1.1c -- it is possible to score a run after the 3rd out. To say that no runs can score after the 3rd out is not true.

[PeteBooth]

That's NOT what Welpe is saying.

You do not UNSCORE a run by subsequent actions of the runner.

In this OP R3 crossed the plate but did not touch it, therefore, for scoring purposes, he is deemed to have "touched it" and score a run for his team UNLESS appealed.

The fact that R3 came back to touch the plate is irrelevant and in a way R3 has "tipped" his hand that he didn't touch it so the defense would be wise and appeal it.

Pete Booth

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

That's NOT what Welpe is saying.

You do not UNSCORE a run by subsequent actions of the runner.

In this OP R3 crossed the plate but did not touch it, therefore, for scoring purposes, he is deemed to have "touched it" and score a run for his team UNLESS appealed.

The fact that R3 came back to touch the plate is irrelevant and in a way R3 has "tipped" his hand that he didn't touch it so the defense would be wise and appeal it.

Pete Booth

Pete,
My response wasn't to Welpe, it was to mbyron when he said:

When he returned to touch HP, his touch was legal but occurred after the 3rd out, when no run can score.

I was just pointing out that a run CAN score after the 3rd out. Sorry if I was confusing.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

9.1.1c -- it is possible to score a run after the 3rd out. To say that no runs can score after the 3rd out is not true.

True, but irrelevant, as this is not an award situation. No runs can score after the 3rd out (unless from an award).

[MD Longhorn]

At this point, folks, I think I saw him touch the plate after all.