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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:50pm
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I'm all for the base umpires letting things play out, and calling outs in real time.

But when the dust settled, they had to have seen their PU gesture TIME!, and should have told him so.
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:05pm
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All I can say is it matters to me what came out of his mouth. I can see how players might react to initial actions of the umpire, but if they did not hear anything they need to act like a ball is live. They also could have been reacting to the batter, which they act like is the case in other situations.

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:04pm
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MLB Responds to Play

Here are some interesting facts about the play and, more important, the last paragraph is the response from MLB.

Dodgers turn first 2-5-6-3 triple play in history but Padres cry foul over umpire?s actions | Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports

The ball kicks off the left side of the plate which is over fair territory. While I believe the ball is foul, it is difficult to tell if the ball rolled off the left side of the plate into foul territory inches away from the left side of the plate. Looking at the play, F2 straddles the plate and picks the ball up in front of his right foot which is over foul territory. Is this a foul ball? Perhaps an overhead view from the camera, if one exists, would be more definitive. Does anyone here think the ball is in front of the plate?
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:26pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:36pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
I think that's something that I can learn from and certainly others too. Hand motions are important part of what we do; however, the verbal communication is the determining factor. It's nice to see that verbalized by MLB.

In reading the article, I like what F2 said about learning to make the plays etc., that's what they have been taught since HS.

I also like what Jeff said about the players really reacting to the batter and not the umpire. Once they did that, and F2 followed through with the play, they were toast.

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:58pm
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...however, the verbal communication is the determining factor. It's nice to see that verbalized by MLB.
David
But they didn't say that. In fact the statement avoids saying what it takes to call time. It does however acknowledge that the mechanic was incorrect.
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:16pm
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I guess from now on, continue running even after the umpire raises both hands because you never know if the umpire is going to say 'I really didn't mean it'.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:36am
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But they didn't say that. In fact the statement avoids saying what it takes to call time. It does however acknowledge that the mechanic was incorrect.
Not to belabor a point; however, he did state in his comments that

"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field.",

Just my inferences from that statement is where I made my conclusions.

Might not be right, but I'm stickin to it ....

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:36pm
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"At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field." Quote MLB

Which means:

HE DIDN'T SAY NUTTIN!
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