Dale Scott calls a ball foul then fair

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jicecone

If your suggesting that it aint nutting until the umpire calls it,

YOUR DAM RIGHT.

Even my weinersnouser knows dat.

Yup, it wasn't nothin' till Scott called it Foul. You are right. Then it became a foul at that time. How it mysteriously became fair again, only Dale can tell you. You can't put the crap back in the horse, but I guess you can in this case.

[johnnyg08]

I can't believe so many of you are pretending like there aren't any issues with him putting his hands up (not initially) but then in the screen shot that is a foul, time mechanic. Call it what you want, but it ain't nothing. Nobody's on here is saying that we're perfect, but to blindly defend a major error is scary. I know for a fact that I've put my arms up like I'm trying to get out of the way and it has never burned me before...but I'm learning from this and keeping my hands down for sure.

I think w/ 4 of them out there, they could've called it foul and stuck with what he called and they would've been okay.

[SAWolf]

Ok, for a second put yourself behind the plate...

The batter jumps out to bunt.
The pitch heads towards the batters head.
The batter to avoid wearing it, jumps back and you hear a thwack!
The batter heads off toward the dugout like he has been hit. You think he has been hit so start to raise your arms to call dead ball and glance at your crew (Our local mechanics say when a player gets hit all field umps that saw it signal as it is often difficult to see from behind)
Your crew is not signalling dead ball so you realize it didn't hit him (he is just acting like it did) just as you finish opening your fists for the 'dead ball' and you see the catcher pick the ball up just in front of home plate (foul - is based on where it settles so it isn't foul)

If he had not opened his hands and instead dropped them to his side would the play have been that different? Did the runners react to the umpire or their batter?

Watch it again at normal speed...

[David B]

Originally Posted by jicecone

If your suggesting that it aint nutting until the umpire calls it,

YOUR DAM RIGHT.

Even my weinersnouser knows dat.

LOL, i like that and its so true.

Thanks
David

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by jicecone

If your suggesting that it aint nutting until the umpire calls it,

YOUR DAM RIGHT.

Even my weinersnouser knows dat.

You're right. I AM saying that. I'm saying that signaling "dead ball" is the same as calling "dead ball" which is the same as when a batter swings and misses at strike three and the PU merely signals the "strike/out" is the same as calling "strike three" without saying "Steeeriiiike Three, Batter's Out!!"

To borrow from the late Mike Wallace, "C'mon!"

Look, we're in the communication business. Our mechanics are a major part of our communication. Dale Scott called a "dead ball/foul ball" once he signaled such.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RadioBlue

You're right. I AM saying that. I'm saying that signaling "dead ball" is the same as calling "dead ball" which is the same as when a batter swings and misses at strike three and the PU merely signals the "strike/out" is the same as calling "strike three" without saying "Steeeriiiike Three, Batter's Out!!"

To borrow from the late Mike Wallace, "C'mon!"

Look, we're in the communication business. Our mechanics are a major part of our communication. Dale Scott called a "dead ball/foul ball" once he signaled such.

Who calls "dead ball"? It's either "FOUL" or "TIME". This isn't softball.

[gordon30307]

I take comfort in the fact that the best of the best screw up. Hey we're all human and make mistakes. Good calls or bad calls there just part of the game. When I get yelled at for my call of a wacker at first or a call I make on a pitch I remind myself the guys in the Show get yelled at as well and I put it behind me.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

Raising your hands is not "calling time" There are all kinds of reasons why he may have raised his hands. Calling "Time" requires a verbal statement:

5.10 The ball becomes dead when an umpire calls “Time.” The umpire-in-chief shall
call “Time”—

Two things - 1) raising the hands was confusing, but 2)the Padres played it out, the Dodgers didn't. You always gotta play it out.

Now you are being confusing, because it actually was the Dodgers played it out and the Padres didn't.

[BSUmp16]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Now you are being confusing, because it actually was the Dodgers played it out and the Padres didn't.

OOPS! The Dodger's hustled (and this from a died-in-the-wool Giant's fan)

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Some of you guys are smoking some really good stuff. If that's not a "foul" mechanic after the "startled" look, I don't know what is. Scott should have manned up and owned his mistake on the field vs. changing the game w/ a triple play.

This is not meant to be disparaging by any means, but it is what it is. I've made the same mistake before (where he holds up his hands as if to get out of the way)...but this is a pretty clear "foul" mechanic.

What's he getting out of the way of? He's darn near 3BLX on the edge of the dirt circle. He was probably calling it foul, and then the ball rolled back into fair territory. Screwed the pooch big time, I'd say. Man up, Dale!

[kylejt]

The PU made a mechanical error. It happens. Heck, in all the excitement, he may not of even known he did that. I get that.

But he had three base umpire who had a wide angle view of the whole thing, and should have killed it. Those are the guys I blame for not fixing this mess.