Dale Scott calls a ball foul then fair

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

At 0:14 in the video link, he has both hands above his head. That's clearly a signal of time, whether Scott intended it or not. By rule, the ball has to be put into play again before any outs can be recorded.

It was a mistake, but the world will keep on turning.....

I see the ball on the left-side of the plate, strike the side of the plate and roll off to the left.
I see ump raised hands, fist closed.
I see ump palms open and signal time.
I see ump point fair, putting the foul ball back in play.
I see ump fist close and signal the 1st out at HP.
(Under Review, confusing arm extended right/left fair signal with multiple hammer, finger-pointing to center field fair calls)
3BU signals the 2nd out.
2BU signals the 3rd out.
1BU signals the 4th out.
An entire crew couldn't put that one back together again.

See article and video link
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...b_1&mode=video

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20659155

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20655513

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by SAump

I see the ball on the left-side of the plate, strike the side of the plate and roll off to the left.
I see ump raised hands, fist closed.
I see ump palms open and signal time.
I see ump point fair, putting the foul ball back in play.
I see ump fist close and signal the 1st out at HP.
3BU signals the 2nd out.
2BU signals the 3rd out.
1BU signals the 4th out.
An entire crew couldn't put that one back together again.

See article and video link
MLB.com Gameday | dodgers.com: Gameday
MLB.com Gameday | dodgers.com: Gameday

Well, he didn't signal an out at HP, because there was only R1 and R2 on base at the time.

But, after watching the much better mlb.com video, Scott definitely signaled either Time or Foul, then changed his mind, totally confusing the San Diego Padres.

[Steven Tyler]

Con.fu.sion [kuhn-fyoo-zhahn]

noun

1. The act of confusing.

2. The state of being confused.

3. A San Diego thing nobody understands..............

[johnnyg08]

Some of you guys are smoking some really good stuff. If that's not a "foul" mechanic after the "startled" look, I don't know what is. Scott should have manned up and owned his mistake on the field vs. changing the game w/ a triple play.

This is not meant to be disparaging by any means, but it is what it is. I've made the same mistake before (where he holds up his hands as if to get out of the way)...but this is a pretty clear "foul" mechanic.

[MikeStrybel]

That looks like he called "Time".

[jwwashburn]

It is hard to tell from the video but, I think there was a decent chance that the ball WAS foul.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

It is hard to tell from the video but, I think there was a decent chance that the ball WAS foul.

You might be right...only Scott and F2 know for sure.

If that's the case, and we don't know for sure, call the foul ball which is what he signaled anyway.

I can't believe his three partners would let him fall on the sword like that. We don't know what they talked about in their huddle, for all we know maybe they told him that they saw his foul call and he said that he was going to eat it. We just don't know.

[BSUmp16]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

That looks like he called "Time".

Raising your hands is not "calling time" There are all kinds of reasons why he may have raised his hands. Calling "Time" requires a verbal statement:

5.10 The ball becomes dead when an umpire calls “Time.” The umpire-in-chief shall
call “Time”—

Two things - 1) raising the hands was confusing, but 2)the Padres played it out, the Dodgers didn't. You always gotta play it out.

[jicecone]

The first video I saw did'nt show this however after studying the MLB video it looks to me like he brought his hand up and then went further to make a fair call signal. I am not saying what he did looked good but as already pointed out it is nothing until "Time " is called. The picture is incriminating but does not tell the whole story. Good try though.

The runners were just as surprised and confused as everyone else so what is unusal with the fact that they are going to blame their confusion on the official.

Triple Play

[RadioBlue]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

Raising your hands is not "calling time" There are all kinds of reasons why he may have raised his hands. Calling "Time" requires a verbal statement:

5.10 The ball becomes dead when an umpire calls “Time.” The umpire-in-chief shall
call “Time”—

Two things - 1) raising the hands was confusing, but 2)the Padres played it out, the Dodgers didn't. You always gotta play it out.

Aww ... c'mon.
Rule 2.00 also says:
A STRIKE is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which—
(a) Is struck at by the batter and is missed;
(b) Is not struck at, if any part of the ball passes through any part of the strike zone;
(c) Is fouled by the batter when he has less than two strikes;
(d) Is bunted foul;
(e) Touches the batter as he strikes at it;
(f) Touches the batter in flight in the strike zone; or
(g) Becomes a foul tip.

So using your logic, if the batter swings and misses and the umpire doesn't actually call "strike", it doesn't count as a strike?

You might be sellin', but I ain't buyin'. Scott clearly signaled "time" which is the same as calling "time".

(I've got no dog in this fight. I'm a Cubs fan. Come to think of it ... I guess that means I have no dog an any fight.)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BSUmp16

Raising your hands is not "calling time" There are all kinds of reasons why he may have raised his hands. Calling "Time" requires a verbal statement:

5.10 The ball becomes dead when an umpire calls “Time.” The umpire-in-chief shall
call “Time”—

Two things - 1) raising the hands was confusing, but 2)the Padres played it out, the Dodgers didn't. You always gotta play it out.

Now you are being confusing, because it actually was the Dodgers played it out and the Padres didn't.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Some of you guys are smoking some really good stuff. If that's not a "foul" mechanic after the "startled" look, I don't know what is. Scott should have manned up and owned his mistake on the field vs. changing the game w/ a triple play.

This is not meant to be disparaging by any means, but it is what it is. I've made the same mistake before (where he holds up his hands as if to get out of the way)...but this is a pretty clear "foul" mechanic.

What's he getting out of the way of? He's darn near 3BLX on the edge of the dirt circle. He was probably calling it foul, and then the ball rolled back into fair territory. Screwed the pooch big time, I'd say. Man up, Dale!

[kylejt]

The PU made a mechanical error. It happens. Heck, in all the excitement, he may not of even known he did that. I get that.

But he had three base umpire who had a wide angle view of the whole thing, and should have killed it. Those are the guys I blame for not fixing this mess.