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No, we don't await that. Now that's what I call feeding a troll. Can you make your request in your own thread without gumming up this one?
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SA, are you referring to OBR or Fed?
Publius, I respect the work Carl has put in over the years not only compiling these interpretations but also in keeping them current. I don't think it is a stretch to say that J/R had fallen out of favor lately. Add to the fact that the Wendelstedt school is but one of two where PBUC selects their candidates so I am quite comfortable in relying upon them for the latest interpretations.
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Off Topic ... but this is EXCEEDINGLY mathematically challenged (unless MLB started playing games in 1988...)
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SA, BOO and illegal bats are covered in a different section. Out of context it looks incomplete but we weren't talking about illegal bats, BOO or even Tribbles.
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Well... forgot to divide by 2... so ... 1960 or so.
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If memory serves, there IS a Rule which specifies that the pitcher's warm-up time begins [and thus the prior half-inning ends] upon the recording of the final out of the half-inning; and there may also be one that specifies that appeals may be made only until all of the D has left the field at the end of the half-inning [or words generally to such effect(s)]. |
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Why are you bailing out the fielder who chose to make the wrong play?
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I'm not bailing anyone out nor failing to bail anyone out - that's not our job. The rulebook tells us what to do here, and it's clear that only appeals are allowed after a 3rd out; it's equally clear to any umpire who's done this for more than 4 days that merely throwing a ball to 1st base before BR gets there is NOT an appeal play.
This is WAY easier than you're making it.
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Probably nothing. You'd look pretty foolish doing that when there are already three outs.
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This thread has become too long for me to keep track of where it stands. But per NFHS Rules: No Fourth Out can be had in this situation. R2-39 says: "Time at bat is the period beginning when a batter first enters the batter's box and continuing until he is put out or becomes a runner. A batter is not charged in the records with a time at bat when he makes a *sacrifice hit, is hit by a pitched ball, is awarded a base on balls, is replaced before being charged with two strikes, is replaced after being charged with two strikes and the *substitute does not strike out, or when he advances to first base because of obstruction by a fielder." R2-S7-A3: "A batter-runner is a player who has finished a time at bat until he is put out or until playing action ends." This means that the B/R was forced to run to 1B, his At-Bat ended with the 3rd out because the 3rd out also ends playing action for the inning; and since the inning ended before the B/R aquired 1B, no Base Running Infraction could have happened. This is the same ruling the Wendelstedt gives for MLB Rules. MTD, Sr.
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His question has been answered affirmatively, you just don't seem to like the answer.
I'm sensing a new rising fast ball thread is in the works here.
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The obvious play is on the batter runner at 1B, that's why we probably haven't seen it very often.
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