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Of course R1 is at third base because NFHS Rules specifically state that B1 is the first batter and if he gets on base he becomes R1, and and downe the lineup we go for each inning. I work only games using NFHS Rules so when I post questions I am going to use NFHS nomenclature. I know that many here look down upon NFHS Rules, but some of us here only work NFHS Rules, and logically it makes sense: R1 on 3B, next two batters make outs, R4 on 1B, and B5 is the Batter. I will admit that labeling the Umpires U1 for the P and U2, etc. for the Bases is stupid. MTD, Sr.
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This is the 2nd balk question where one of our brothers called a balk for a free foot landing "behind the rubber". Did someone "change " the rules?
Also, I was admonished in the last post because I stated that ..."it doesn't matter where the free foot lands as long as there is distance and direction...". Seems that this is exactly what everyone here is saying for this post. Interesting.......
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Wording of FED rule 6-2-4f regarding infractions that result in a balk:
"...failing to pitch to the batter when the entire non-pivot foot passes behind the perpendicular plane of the back edge of the pitcher's plate, except when feinting or throwing to second base in attempt to put out a runner." If the pitcher's foot landed "on the backside of the rubber" as described in the OP, then it did pass behind the "perpendicular plane of the back edge of the pitcher's plate". Remember your geometry: planes extend indefinitely, and the "perpendicular plane of the back edge of the pitcher's plate" would not be limited to just the 24" width of the pitcher's plate. Having said all that, I doubt I would have been able to see enough to call a balk from either behind the plate or from the B position.
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next time someone is in 3-man mechanics, watch the pitcher and see exactly how hard it is for him to have his foot go completely past the back side of the rubber. That is really back there.
Might help someone making a judgement about the foot in regards to this rule etc., On the OP, no way the BU can see this from B or C. If a coach complains, tell him to hire 3-men. Thanks David |
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If posting on the NFHS site [does anyone, anymore?], OK, follow their idiotic nomeclature: but everyone else on the planet reads "R1" as "the Runner on 1st"; and except for BOO issues, couldn't [and need not] care less who is "B1" ... "B5". |
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