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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:17pm
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Why are we answering FED test questions for a poster? That is the poster's job to find his/her answers. If the poster has a specific question, let him/her word the question pertaining to what they do not understand. Otherwise, we may as well post the entire FED test and post the answers, too.

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Old Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:26pm
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These are not on the Fed test. Illinois test.
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:02pm
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Here is one from the IHSA (Illinois) test that I have an issue with:

With R1 at 1st, one out, R1 is stealing on the pitch. B3 hits a line drive to F3's right. F3 dives and catches the ball for the second out. While F3 is lying on the ground, R1 dives over F3's prone body and gets back to first base before F3 is able to tag either R1 or the base.

A. R1 is guilty of interference
B. R1 is out for diving over F3
C. F3 is guilty of obstruction and R1 is awarded second base
D. Legal play


According to 8-4-2b(2): Runners are never required to slide, but if a runner elects to slide, the slide must be legal. (2-32-1, 2) Jumping, hurdling, and leaping are all legal attempts to avoid a fielder as long as the fielder is lying on the ground. Diving over a fielder is illegal.

PENALTY: The runner is out. Interference is called and the ball is dead immediately. On a force-play slide with less than two outs, the runner is declared out, as well as the batter-runner. Runners shall return to the bases occupied at the time of the pitch. With two outs, the runner is declared out. The batter is credited with a fielder’s choice.


My guess is that "B" is the answer they are looking for. However, it seems to me that they should accept "A" as well. What say you?
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:09pm
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This isn't one of those Referee-style tests where you can select both A and B?
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:15pm
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This isn't one of those Referee-style tests where you can select both A and B?
No, sir. Only one answer is allowed.
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:25pm
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I just found a play in the case book that makes me think "B" must be the correct answer.

8.4.2 SITUATION V: R1 is advancing toward second base on a ground ball by B2 and is obstructed by F4. R1, in an attempt to avoid F4, dives over the top of F4.
RULING: R1 is declared out immediately, and unless he makes contact or alters the play of F4, the ball remains live. The act of obstruction is superseded by the act of diving over a fielder.

If diving over a fielder were considered interference, I believe we would have an immediate dead ball. I suppose I just answered my own question, although it seems like the rules book is a bit misleading here.
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:41pm
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According to 8-4-2b(2):
Wrong reference.

Try 8-4-2d.
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Old Sun Feb 19, 2012, 01:50pm
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Wrong reference.

Try 8-4-2d.
Right you are, Bob. Thanks.
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Old Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:22am
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Both rule references state that diving over a fielder is illegal. Either works when explaining to a coach that his kid is out. The big difference in the two is live ball/dead ball awareness. In your play there is no continuous action so it only remains alive for that second or two until you kill it to ring him up. Most other illegal slides have an interference component that kills it immediately. Good luck with your test.
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Old Mon Feb 20, 2012, 01:28pm
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I thought this question could have been worded better. As it's written, a couple of answers seem possible to me:

With R1 at first base, less than two outs. A shot back at the pitcher deflects off the pitcher's foot toward first base. The pitcher chases the ball into the baseline between home and first. The pitcher arrives at the ball ahead of the batter-runner. As the pitcher is reaching for the ball, the batter-runner collides with the pitcher (not malicious) and both players fall to the ground. The pitcher gets up with the ball and tosses to first base for the put-out on the batter-runner.

* A. Obstruction on the pitcher; award BR at least first base; and award the base he is forced to by BR's obstruction award unless he advances further while the ball is in play
* B. Inference on the BR; call him out and return R1 to first base
* C. Incidental contact; play on
* D. The out stands; award R1 2nd base
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