batwarmer

[onetime1]

ASA Approved Bat Warmer Sleeve Official Site By PYROFLITE Microwaveable Bat Warmer

So are we saying this contraption is legal or illegal for NFHS baseball play in the spring of 2012?

[etn_ump]

Artificial bat warming devices are illegal in FED baseball.

[onetime1]

Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?

[bob jenkins]

illegal

[johnnyg08]

Bat warmer = illegal...

[RKBUmp]

If the website is still claiming they are ASA approved they would be wrong. Batwarmers were illegal in ASA, then for a couple of years they allowed them, then after further testing they determined they did alter the hitting characteristics of the bat and they were outlawed again for 2012.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by onetime1

Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?

If the warming was "natural" then they wouldn't need a device. I have contacted the manufacturer and asked for paperwork from ASA with respect to their certification of this device. ASA, of course, isn't binding on Federation Baseball. I will note, however, that the 2012 ASA rule change appears to specifically prohibit this device.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

If the warming was "natural" then they wouldn't need a device.

Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.

[john5396]

According to an email from the state office here in NC, Interpreters have been instructed that placing bats on the tin roof of the dugout is intentionally warming the bat and makes the bat illegal. So this device is clearly illegal for NFHS.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.

I'd say letting them sit in the sun is pretty natural. I had my kids either sit on the barrels, or keep them under their arm pits on cold nights. For day games, I made sure they were in the direct sunlight.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.

Nahhhh.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Exactly. The only natural bat warmer is the player's body heat.

You could roast it over a fire as long as no accelerants were used to light the fire. Arson investigation was a big discussion at this year's winter meetings.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by onetime1

Well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which I think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?

The rule reads 1-3-5," No artficial or intentional means shall be used to control the temperature of the bat."

It certainly seems to me that if your going to heat a bag or whatever in the microwave and put the bat in it, it is not because you you love your bat so much you want it to have a warm feeling about you.

Then again, I have seen some strange things.

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by onetime1

well this device calls itself "natural" and "ficial" which i think are both the opposite of artificial. So is it legal then?

no!