Detroit vs Toronto

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Good learning opportunity here for rookies. You made a bad call and you know you did. You go for help and your partner tells you what he as (the opposite of what you called). You then change the call "to get it right" and you endure the wrath of the coach affected by the call.

Totally disagree. If you cannot get calls like this right then you need to find something else to do. You cannot change every call that is missed even if you think it is missed. What are we going to take votes every time a play takes place? You should get it right the first time, not several minutes later.

Peace

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Totally disagree. If you cannot get calls like this right then you need to find something else to do. You cannot change every call that is missed even if you think it is missed. What are we going to take votes every time a play takes place? You should get it right the first time, not several minutes later.

Peace

Rut, you are correct, we should be getting our calls and you know that I am not a fan of "board meetings" to make a call.. But every now and then, something goes wrong. The "training" in this video is what to do when the manager comes out, not blowing the call.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Rut, you are correct, we should be getting our calls and you know that I am not a fan of "board meetings" to make a call.. But every now and then, something goes wrong. The "training" in this video is what to do when the manager comes out, not blowing the call.

Are we going to debate every call that is missed? This creates a slippery slope because every judgment call can be up for debate and certainly the close ones. If you cannot get this play right, find guys that will and you will not have this problem. The MLB needs to stop holding on to jobs of sons and of other umpires and give it to the best guys that grade out every year. I would not advocate any of this to a rookie do this unless they are MLB umpires.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The MLB needs to stop holding on to jobs of sons and of other umpires and give it to the best guys that grade out every year.

You don't believe that Brian Runge and Hunter Wendelstedt are capable MLB umpires? I don't think the fact that these guys are sons of big league umpires means that they aren't doing their jobs. It may have influenced the hiring decision, but it is not what keeps them in the majors, it's their ability. Ed Rapuano is a terrific umpire, which goes to show that we all screw up calls once in a while. I don't see any of the MLB umpires blowing calls on a routine basis, or they would be out on their butts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

You don't believe that Brian Runge and Hunter Wendelstedt are capable MLB umpires? I don't think the fact that these guys are sons of big league umpires means that they aren't doing their jobs. It may have influenced the hiring decision, but it is not what keeps them in the majors, it's their ability. Ed Rapuano is a terrific umpire, which goes to show that we all screw up calls once in a while. I don't see any of the MLB umpires blowing calls on a routine basis, or they would be out on their butts.

If they cannot get this call right the first time, then they need to get someone that does not have the same last name of a dad that umpired at that level. And my comment was really not about them, but the fact that this involved sons of former umpires is telling if you ask me. And if guys had to make calls with their job on the line, the quality in my opinion would improve. Other sports get rid of officials that cannot do the job no matter what their last name is. MLB seems to be stuck in whom once was an umpire and hiring their sons and not getting rid of guys that need to be replaced. I think this is the reason many of these obvious calls are missed. There is no competition and these guys can screw up without a threat they will be jobless next year. And just because these guys are decent umpires and their dad was once there does not make them better than others that also worked hard to get to that point.

Peace

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

You don't believe that Brian Runge and Hunter Wendelstedt are capable MLB umpires? I don't think the fact that these guys are sons of big league umpires means that they aren't doing their jobs. It may have influenced the hiring decision, but it is not what keeps them in the majors, it's their ability. Ed Rapuano is a terrific umpire, which goes to show that we all screw up calls once in a while. I don't see any of the MLB umpires blowing calls on a routine basis, or they would be out on their butts.

I'm not all that enamored with Hunter. He had average skills and the Wendelstedt name. There were better AAA umpires when he came up.

He remains an average umpire. The bar should be raised.