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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 07:53am
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The fake tag is related to to NFHS High School rules and is in the same section as the Forced play Slide Rule that Amer. Legion adopts. Not quite sure if they adopted that particular part of the rule but, it wouldn't be suprising to me if a HS official makes a mistake like that. It is also considered a safety rule in HS and AL is big on safety too.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 08:07am
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Some American Legion teams / programs play under FED rules (or under "more" FED rules than the national standard). They aren't officially supposed to, but ...
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 08:09am
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The term 'fake tag' does not appear in the 2011 Legion rule book.

It would be odd for the fake tag provision to be in the same section as the FPSR (and it isn't): FPSR deals with a kind of interference, whereas a fake tag is a kind of obstruction in FED.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 08:11pm
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The term 'fake tag' does not appear in the 2011 Legion rule book.

It would be odd for the fake tag provision to be in the same section as the FPSR (and it isn't): FPSR deals with a kind of interference, whereas a fake tag is a kind of obstruction in FED.
Your right, I was only off by 33 pages though, and yes I will agree it is more like the NCAA FPSL.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 10:53pm
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Thanks men for the reponses. I had the opportunity this evening to talk with a veteran umpire who has done many American Legion games here in New York. He knows of no fake tag rule within the American Legion playing rules.

I'm beginning to think that the umpire who told me this might have been carrying too much over from High School (Fed) umpiring mindset.

I will be doing several Jr American Legion games and some Sr games this June and July, and I don't want to be acting on a false rule.

Thanks again, men....
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Old Sun Jun 26, 2011, 09:02pm
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I will be doing several Jr American Legion games and some Sr games this June and July, and I don't want to be acting on a false rule.
Best check the rules in play, around here Jr. Legion plays FED, Sr. Legion plays Legion rules.
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Old Mon Jun 27, 2011, 10:56am
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Thanks men for the reponses. I had the opportunity this evening to talk with a veteran umpire who has done many American Legion games here in New York. He knows of no fake tag rule within the American Legion playing rules.

I'm beginning to think that the umpire who told me this might have been carrying too much over from High School (Fed) umpiring mindset.

I will be doing several Jr American Legion games and some Sr games this June and July, and I don't want to be acting on a false rule.

Thanks again, men....
It's not unusual for this to happen as most HS umpires also do Legion ball. It's usually umpires who don't bother to review the differences between OBR & FED and don't bother to learn OBR. They figure all they need is FED and they'll get by.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 08:47am
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The fake tag is related to to NFHS High School rules and is in the same section as the Forced play Slide Rule that Amer. Legion adopts. Not quite sure if they adopted that particular part of the rule but, it wouldn't be suprising to me if a HS official makes a mistake like that. It is also considered a safety rule in HS and AL is big on safety too.
Actually the Legion FPSR is much more like the NCAA rule than the FED rule.

"Fake tag" is not mentioned in the Legion book.
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Old Tue Jun 21, 2011, 10:43am
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Actually the Legion FPSR is much more like the NCAA rule than the FED rule.

"Fake tag" is not mentioned in the Legion book.
Beat me to it. Nothing FED about Legion's FPSR.
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