Home plate appeal costs HS Conn team Championship.

[David B]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm standing in the runner's path just behind the plate, keeping the teammates away. It's going to be hard for him to miss it.

Exactly, keep them away, then everyone can see the touch etc.,

Thanks
David

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by David B

Exactly, keep them away, then everyone can see the touch etc.,

Thanks
David

I've been gone from HS ball for a while. I didn't look very hard, but cannot find the rule that prohibits players from being around the plate during a dead ball. As stated above, I recall being told years ago to keep players off the dirt after a HR but cannot find a Fed rule. Can you please cite it?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

I've been gone from HS ball for a while. I didn't look very hard, but cannot find the rule that prohibits players from being around the plate during a dead ball. As stated above, I recall being told years ago to keep players off the dirt after a HR but cannot find a Fed rule. Can you please cite it?

2nd time you've called this a dead ball. This is a liner to left field. The ball is not dead.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

2nd time you've called this a dead ball. This is a liner to left field. The ball is not dead.

Where did I state that the ball is a liner to left? I asked for a ruling on a HR.

This discussion is fluid. I see no reason to repeat the obvious, the OP has been dissected already. I sought information on a related ruling. Yes, twice, now!

As for the players, 3-3-1a can be invoked and the OHC knows all too well what it involves.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

Where did I state that the ball is a liner to left? I asked for a ruling on a HR.

Yeah, you do have a red herring post (#21) over there. The confusion is that you quoted Dave, who quoted Rich - all of whom have been talking about the OP. My apologies for not noticing that your quoting of Dave meant that you were actually replying to yourself.

(PS - as a side note, you do this a lot. You end up in needless arguments with people because you were horribly unclear about who you were referring to or responding to. Not sure if you've noticed.)

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Yeah, you do have a red herring post (#21) over there. The confusion is that you quoted Dave, who quoted Rich - all of whom have been talking about the OP. My apologies for not noticing that your quoting of Dave meant that you were actually replying to yourself.

(PS - as a side note, you do this a lot. You end up in needless arguments with people because you were horribly unclear about who you were referring to or responding to. Not sure if you've noticed.)

No. I quoted Dave because I asked a question of him. I posted a play I had been involved in that addresses a problem we can encounter by interjecting ourselves into a game.

I was not replying to myself. I seek a ruling for the play. I have found none that allow an umpire to prevent players from entering a field during a dead ball during HS level play.

Finally, if you watch the OP again, you will see players enter the field while the ball is alive. They are subject to warning and ejection. They can also be cited for interference.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

No. I quoted Dave because I asked a question of him. I posted a play I had been involved in that addresses a problem we can encounter by interjecting ourselves into a game.

I was not replying to myself. I seek a ruling for the play. I have found none that allow an umpire to prevent players from entering a field during a dead ball during HS level play.

Finally, if you watch the OP again, you will see players enter the field while the ball is alive. They are subject to warning and ejection. They can also be cited for interference.

No, you're right, as usual. Your lack of clarity is completely my fault. Sorry bout that.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

Where did I state that the ball is a liner to left? I asked for a ruling on a HR.

No rule, as you know.

But, it is generally accepted good game management.

I concede that if you use the words "let him touch" (or similar), some rat* might interpret that as "helping the offense." So, say "let me see".

* -- I don't often use that term, but someone who uses this ploy on a walk-off is one, at least in this instance.

[MikeStrybel]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No rule, as you know.

But, it is generally accepted good game management.

I concede that if you use the words "let him touch" (or similar), some rat* might interpret that as "helping the offense." So, say "let me see".

* -- I don't often use that term, but someone who uses this ploy on a walk-off is one, at least in this instance.

Thanks Bob. Yes, I knew that there wasn't a rule about this in HS ball. My attempt to evolve the dialogue and banish a myth is for naught. In the OP, the PU had the best look at the runner from where he stood. He has to watch the touch at third, be in position for a possible rundown and fall back for a play at the dish. Third base extended wouldn't work for him too well. He may have been able to prevent the mob by being there, but anticipating that over watching his duties is not likely.