Who becomes coach?

[jdmara]

In Iowa, the game is over

-Josh

[Adam]

Each state determines the consequences. I'm not aware of any state that allows a high school competition to continue in any sport if there are no coaches available.

Each state would also set the standards for who can become a coach. If the AD/Principal/Superintendant/Bus Driver steps up and says they are the new coach, I'll let them (on the basketball court) and assume they meet whatever qualifications are set by my state. At that point, my ejection report would include all the information and I'd let the state sort it out.

Again, that's basketball, and the custom in baseball may be different.

[justanotherblue]

As mentioned, it varies from state to state. Here in Nevada, you have to have a member of the schools staff available, or it's game over by forfeit.

[BEAREF]

Thanks for the responses. I will check with our state high school league.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Each state determines the consequences. I'm not aware of any state that allows a high school competition to continue in any sport if there are no coaches available.

Each state would also set the standards for who can become a coach. If the AD/Principal/Superintendant/Bus Driver steps up and says they are the new coach, I'll let them (on the basketball court) and assume they meet whatever qualifications are set by my state. At that point, my ejection report would include all the information and I'd let the state sort it out.

Again, that's basketball, and the custom in baseball may be different.

I have had this situation happen once. Between innings, I had the replacement "coach" write his name and phone number on the card. This information was forwarded to the state in my ejection report so they could follow up if needed.

Just wanted to elaborate on your point Snaq

-Josh

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I have had this situation happen once. Between innings, I had the replacement "coach" write his name and phone number on the card. This information was forwarded to the state in my ejection report so they could follow up if needed.
-Josh

Wow. Trusting. I'm not sure I'd have done this if the guy was not in uniform. He could literally be ANYONE, him writing down his name and number is nothing - either or both could be fabricated. He could even be someone previously banned from high school sports for any number of reasons (some rather problematical). You'd never know.

Better to end it and let the state sort it out.

[ozzy6900]

In CT, the game is over if there are no certified teachers in the dugout. No mommies or daddies allowed.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Wow. Trusting. I'm not sure I'd have done this if the guy was not in uniform. He could literally be ANYONE, him writing down his name and number is nothing - either or both could be fabricated. He could even be someone previously banned from high school sports for any number of reasons (some rather problematical). You'd never know.

Better to end it and let the state sort it out.

There has to be a reasonable due diligence in this matter. I don't ask the head coach to produce proof of state certification and three forms of identification to proof that he says who he is. Therefore, I'm going to use common sense and get the name and phone number of the guy and go from there. If something is a muck, the ejected coach isn't going to leave his team under the auspices of anyone random. He is going to tell the team to pack up and leave with him.

I don't know about you gentleman but I don't always carry my card that says I'm a state certified umpire. Maybe I should, but I don't.

-Josh

[Ump Rube]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I don't know about you gentleman but I don't always carry my card that says I'm a state certified umpire. Maybe I should, but I don't.

Sitting back in the dressing room (read: car trunk) right next to my rule books.

I think Name and phone number would be ok, I would also try to get a "normal" title from them (bus driver, groundskeeper, parent, ect.) and place that in the report as well.

A little more information in that situation could not hurt anyone.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Ump Rube

Sitting back in the dressing room (read: car trunk) right next to my rule books.

I used to carry it but have gotten lacked about it over the past 5 years

-Josh

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jdmara

There has to be a reasonable due diligence in this matter. I don't ask the head coach to produce proof of state certification and three forms of identification to proof that he says who he is.

Well of course not, and I'm not saying anything of the sort... the HC has shown up at the game, in uniform, etc. The problem comes from when all uniformed "coach"es are ejected.

Therefore, I'm going to use common sense and get the name and phone number of the guy and go from there. If something is a muck, the ejected coach isn't going to leave his team under the auspices of anyone random. He is going to tell the team to pack up and leave with him.

Maybe not somebody random to him... but could easily be someone who should not be there. Maybe he picks someone's dad that he sees at the games all the time ... and maybe he doesn't even know this dad is a criminal. I'm not saying it's likely ... but if you allow someone out there that you know NOTHING about, you might be liable for the consequences.

I don't know about you gentleman but I don't always carry my card that says I'm a state certified umpire. Maybe I should, but I don't.

-Josh

I don't either... but I wouldn't be surprised if I happened to be at a game as a spectator, and when I saw they were working one-man and I offered to help, they wouldn't let me because I didn't have my card on me.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Maybe not somebody random to him... but could easily be someone who should not be there. Maybe he picks someone's dad that he sees at the games all the time ... and maybe he doesn't even know this dad is a criminal. I'm not saying it's likely ... but if you allow someone out there that you know NOTHING about, you might be liable for the consequences.

If the coach picks someone random, that's on him (not me). I allow someone that I know nothing about in charge of the players every time I go to a new school. It's the schools responsibility to assign qualified personnel to the games to watch the players. If that coach is ejected, the ejected coach should appoint a qualified (state certified) replacement. If there isn't one available then game over. If I ask the coach-appointed replacement if he is certified according to the state association and he says yes, they it's no longer on me.

-Josh

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by jdmara

I don't know about you gentleman but I don't always carry my card that says I'm a state certified umpire. Maybe I should, but I don't.

Card?

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Card?

In the two state's I've worked (IA and KY), we are sent a card or print out a card to "prove" our certification as officials.

-Josh