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Old Sun May 01, 2011, 10:23pm
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Sounds to me like type B obstruction on F4 then calling time once R1 was tagged at second and rewarding him second.

I am going to go against the grain on this one and say that once time is called R3 can not further advance to score. You cannot score R3 as he is not the one being obstructed so unless he had crossed home when time was called he returns to third.
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Old Sun May 01, 2011, 10:32pm
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tank,

Got a cite?

I believe you're mistaken.

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Old Mon May 02, 2011, 09:03am
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Sounds to me like type B obstruction on F4 then calling time once R1 was tagged at second and rewarding him second.

I am going to go against the grain on this one and say that once time is called R3 can not further advance to score. You cannot score R3 as he is not the one being obstructed so unless he had crossed home when time was called he returns to third.
Read the rule carefully - you can award whatewver you want to award to offset the obstruction.
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Old Mon May 02, 2011, 09:34am
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With the ball out near second, and R3 heading home, yeah, we're giving him the plate. Half way, or not, he had a chance to score, and that's all that's needed.
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Old Mon May 02, 2011, 09:35am
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Sounds to me like type B obstruction on F4 then calling time once R1 was tagged at second and rewarding him second.

I am going to go against the grain on this one and say that once time is called R3 can not further advance to score. You cannot score R3 as he is not the one being obstructed so unless he had crossed home when time was called he returns to third.
You can go against the grain if you just want to be unique... but there's no rule to back you up, at least not for the reason you state.

PS - PLEASE use the word AWARDED, not REWARDED, especially when discussing this with a coach or other umpires.
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Old Mon May 02, 2011, 09:38am
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Sounds to me like type B obstruction on F4 then calling time once R1 was tagged at second and rewarding him second.

I am going to go against the grain on this one and say that once time is called R3 can not further advance to score. You cannot score R3 as he is not the one being obstructed so unless he had crossed home when time was called he returns to third.
Could be type A OBS, although the ball is certainly dead on the tag (or on the OBS if it was indeed type A).

But the question is not whether R3 had touched the plate when the ball became dead, it's whether he would have scored absent the OBS.

In this case, I'm awarding R3 home.
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