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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 04:36pm
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Restricting a Player to the Bench v. Ejecting

Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 04:42pm
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Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.
Unless your state has specific instructions that allow restriction of players, it's not an option under NFHS rules.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 04:47pm
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I cannot think off the top of my head any situations that are best served by restricting a player/coach over ejecting.

I do so when stated to by the rules, but just about anything that you would do to warrant a reaction, warrants an ejection.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 04:47pm
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As Rich said, there might be a provisin in some states for restriction to the bench...

An F bomb yelled at the opposing team in a High School game?

Why in the world would you want that kid near the field for the rest of the game? Ejection is the right call.
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i cannot think off the top of my head any situations that are best served by restricting a player/coach over ejecting.

I do so when stated to by the rules, but just about anything that you would do to warrant a reaction, warrants an ejection.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 06:57pm
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Unless your state has specific instructions that allow restriction of players, it's not an option under NFHS rules.
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I've never heard of a state that allows restricting a player.
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I've never heard of a state that allows restricting a player.
Well, other than for being an illegal sub or CR.

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Well, other than for being an illegal sub or CR.

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I plead guilty and beg the court's indulgence.

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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 07:39pm
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 08:56pm
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Why in the world would you want that kid near the field for the rest of the game? Ejection is the right call.
We're specifically told that for high school ball that an ejected player has to stay in the dugout. You can't send him off "out of sight" like you can a coach because we're dealing with students that can't be left on their own unsupervised.

I might not personally want him near the field, but I don't really have much choice in the matter.
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Just wanted to get your feedback regarding an ejection in a high school game.

As a defensive player was leaving the field (following a hard, but legal slide into second base), he yelled, "Show some f***ing respect!" in the direction of the offensive team. He clearly yelled this loud enough for both the offensive team and spectators to hear, as both reacted to the comment. The defensive player who made the comment was ejected from the game. In your judgement, was this the correct decision or should he have been restricted to the bench? Thank you.
Here in my state, there are ejections (7 things) and restrictions (everything else). Ejections come with stiff penalties for players and coaches and form to fill out and submit for umpires. Restrictions to dugout are that game only and no forms to fill out for umpires. This player's actions would result in ejection, profanity one of the 7.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 09:23pm
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We're specifically told that for high school ball that an ejected player has to stay in the dugout. You can't send him off "out of sight" like you can a coach because we're dealing with students that can't be left on their own unsupervised.

I might not personally want him near the field, but I don't really have much choice in the matter.
I have not done HS ball in several years. I guess I was remembering coaches. I mostly tossed them. A few kids that I ejected throughout the years were removed by the Athletic Director/Principal, etc...I had a few kids involved fights sent to sit on the bus by their coach.
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I had a few kids involved fights sent to sit on the bus by their coach.
A coach would have to sit on bus with him here. Or, parent take home. Assume away game since there is a bus, but some home games are played at sites both teams arrive by bus. A school administrator could also sit on bus with the ejected player. They are not to be left unattended.
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Bus driver was there...they always sat there for the whole DH...
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