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Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 07:28pm
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I don't know where the term came from, but RATS are uncivilized and always want the cheese and will die trying to get it. Seems appropriate for some coaches, but I have met many who are not RATS.
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2011, 07:37pm
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Rats

The term, Rats as applied to some managers/coaches and players goes back decades. It started in pro ball with umpires who are not insecure.

It is not applied to all managers/coaches or players. It is not applied to those who lobby appropriately for their team or simply disagree with calls. It refers to the type of coacb/manager whose lobbying involves outright lying and cheating.

I have heard MLB, MiLB, D-1, D-111, JUCO, Varsity and LL umpire use the term appropriately.

If it offends the sensibilities of umpires who are fortunate enough to have never been exposed to a Rat, they should simply not adopt its use. No one will ever force them to say the "R" word.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 03:58pm
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BS = phrases uttered by an unruly parent whose son can do no wrong.
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Old Tue Apr 19, 2011, 03:59pm
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HTBT--Had to be there
OBS--Obstruction
OBR--Ordinary baseball rules--major league rules
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2011, 09:09am
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Could someone help with the abbreviations that are used? eg: HTBT, OBS, OBR, ETC. Is there somewhere you can go that explains all these abbreviations? Thanks for the help.
I spent a couple decades in the military and here are some I've adapted to baseball:
DILLIGAF(S): No, I've got nothing to offer.
FIFO: Welcome, Rookie.
FUBAR: Skip, he called it. He explained it. I have nothing to add.
HUOA: I’ve got third.
SNAFU: They want to push the start back another hour.
SWAG: Out!
YMRASU: I took this game just to work with you, Rookie.
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2011, 08:24pm
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When I coached, I did not behave like a "rat".

Now that I umpire rather than coach, I still do not refer to coaches as "Rats", either on boards such as this, nor in conversation with umpires I know.

Just as there are, in fact, umpires who engage in "Smitty" behavior, so too are there coaches who engage in "ratlike" behavior. That was apparent to me back when I was coaching, and my experience as an umpire hasn't changed either perception.

When I first started posting on this board as a coach, I noticed the use of the term, but decided it was not worth concerning myself about. When my colleagues now use it in conversation it doesn't bother me in the least.

My personal opinion is that it is best not to go into working a game with the mindset that "all coaches are rats", but it would be foolish to go into a game without realizing that ANY coach could become a "rat" in a NY minute.

I find that if I treat all the participants in the game with respect, they are much more likely to respond in kind. But I don't much care for being taken advantage of, so I remain warily vigilant as well.

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Old Sun Apr 24, 2011, 01:06pm
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Just as there are, in fact, umpires who engage in "Smitty" behavior, so too are there coaches who engage in "ratlike" behavior. That was apparent to me back when I was coaching, and my experience as an umpire hasn't changed either perception.

When I first started posting on this board as a coach, I noticed the use of the term, but decided it was not worth concerning myself about. When my colleagues now use it in conversation it doesn't bother me in the least.

My personal opinion is that it is best not to go into working a game with the mindset that "all coaches are rats", but it would be foolish to go into a game without realizing that ANY coach could become a "rat" in a NY minute.

I find that if I treat all the participants in the game with respect, they are much more likely to respond in kind. But I don't much care for being taken advantage of, so I remain warily vigilant as well.

JM
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Old Mon Apr 25, 2011, 02:32pm
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I guess as the newbie I will ask the question.

WITHDTHTDWOP.

What in the heck does this have to do with original post.

Agree to disagree and get back on point. I do not know how to use the quites and all the fancy stuff you do. However, settle this amongst yourself.
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Old Mon Apr 25, 2011, 02:32pm
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nor can I spell... quotes.
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Old Mon Apr 25, 2011, 09:33pm
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I guess as the newbie I will ask the question.

WITHDTHTDWOP.

What in the heck does this have to do with original post.

Agree to disagree and get back on point. I do not know how to use the quites and all the fancy stuff you do. However, settle this amongst yourself.

As the originator of this post I would have to agree with jophyal. WTH is all the rat talk have to do with my original question of abbreviations that are used in this forum. I was hoping to get an understanding of terms used in the posts so that I could understand better.

Now I think I just need some D-CON!! (no need for abbreviation on this one, layman's terms = rat poisoning)
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Old Mon Apr 25, 2011, 08:35pm
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Come on, this is getting old.
Yes, it is.

Neither of you seems to have taken the hint from the deleted posts.

Too bad.
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