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Dropped Third Strike - Check Swing
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No runners, 0 outs. 0 balls, 2 strikes Pitch in dirt, batter half swing, ruled ball by home umpire. Catcher first tags runner then appeals for ruling on check swing. Base ump rules swing. Question does the timing of the tag matter in this situation? What if catcher throw ball into LF (over throws 3B)? |
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The timing of the tag does not matter. The BR is out if he's tagged, even if the appeal happens after the tag. The batter becomes a runner (and so is liable to be tagged out) after a third strike not legally caught, not after the BU rules on the half swing. So your "overthrow" is irrelevant (I assume F2 is throwing the ball around after the K).
When I'm BU, this is the situation where I will give my ruling on a half swing without being asked. I follow the Bob Jenkins school on this point, and will come up with my ruling when: 1. the batter offered 2. the PU doesn't get it immediately 3. F2 doesn't legally catch the pitch, and 4. the BR can run (2 outs or no R1) The rationale for jumping in with this call is fairness to the BR.
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This definitely needs a pregame. And if you pregame it the mechanic should be for the PU going to BU IMMEDIATELY after the uncaught 3rd strike/check swing.
Initiation by the BU can create a bad situation. For example, say it was a full count and the PU has a checked swing (thus BB). Now here comes BU with a reversal when DEF hasn't appealed or PU hasn't asked for help . OC is going to get fired up. |
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Throwing it around the infield after the K. I had to ponder that a moment, too.
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