The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 08:18pm
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Historically, the chance of actually being found negligent is very low. There is a greater chance (and I do not know what that is) of being sued and that still costs time and money. One would be wise to try and reasonably reduce that risk whenever possible.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 08:32pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeStrybel View Post
You bring up a good point, the head coach must be made available and it is good practice to receive their confirmation of proper equipment and sportsmanship. Maybe things have changed while I was out of the country for the past few years but I recall great debate on the site about umpire liability. I believe most felt it was urban legend for baseball umpires to be found liable for negligence while working a game. If that opinion has changed I would love to read more. Anyone know of a baseball umpire who was successfully sued for being negligent during a game?

Thanks and have a great season.
Quick Google search gave me this:

Sports officiating: a legal guide - Google Books

The book cites several lawsuits against umpires. And the fact that the lawsuit was not "successful" against the umpires doesn't mean that it wasn't costly. The legal fees and court costs of defending such a lawsuit (whether it has any merit or not) is the real problem,

By taking the time to recite this one quick sentence from the rulebook (and getting the appropriate response from the coaches), you have given your defense a big boost and have Covered Your Assets.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 11:16pm
In Time Out
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 244
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeStrybel View Post
You bring up a good point, the head coach must be made available and it is good practice to receive their confirmation of proper equipment and sportsmanship. Maybe things have changed while I was out of the country for the past few years but I recall great debate on the site about umpire liability. I believe most felt it was urban legend for baseball umpires to be found liable for negligence while working a game.
As more umpires have liability insurance, the more we will see these lawsuits.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 23, 2011, 06:21am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northwest suburbs of Chicago
Posts: 645
Admittedly, I didn't spend much time looking but I can't find a verified article about an umpire actually being found guilty for negligence. I emailed a couple friends and both said the umpire's need for liability insurnace is fear mongering.

Rain turning to snow here today. I don't think that first game will happen after all. Good luck to those of you working today.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Wed Mar 23, 2011, 08:07am
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeStrybel View Post
I emailed a couple friends and both said the umpire's need for liability insurnace is fear mongering.
The odds of being successfully sued are tiny but the odds of being sued are a bit better. That still costs money and for the price of NASO membership, which is a deductible expense, it is cheap peace of mind. Besides I also get several pages of fire starting material in the form of Referee magazine every month.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 11:14pm
In Time Out
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 244
Originally Posted by Simply The Best
Association mandated? Because if not, it is a waste of time asking these questions. It is all about liability since pre game checks are a complete and total ruse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BSUmp16 View Post
Mandated by Rule and common sense.

2-10-2: "Umpires shall also ask the head coaches of the two opposing teams if their players are legally and properly equipped."

Also, I can tell you that if anyone gets hurt in a game and as a result a lawsuit is filed, this will be one of the questions asked of you - "Did you inquire of the coaches, as the rules require you do, and if so, what did they respond." If you can't answer that question properly, you may have just added your name to the list of defendants.
We agree, the asking of coaches if their players are properly equipped blah blah is all about liability and nothing about enforcing safety. Ever see a coach cup check a catcher? Have you cup checked a catcher? Same with checking bats. Total BS, the bats they show, are they the bats they use?

Umpires have been burdened with these ridiculous tasks because they are insured for liability (payable money in lawsuits) and coaches, parents and players refuse to adhere to the most common of safety and sportsmanship practices.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
the perfect plate conference... gdc25 Softball 5 Mon Jan 24, 2011 06:17pm
Plate Conference tcblue13 Softball 45 Thu May 07, 2009 02:49pm
Get paid at the Plate Conference PeteBooth Baseball 11 Tue Jul 19, 2005 07:42pm
Plate conference Skahtboi Softball 13 Thu Sep 23, 2004 07:35am
pre-game plate conference PAblue87 Baseball 8 Wed Feb 21, 2001 08:14pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1