Who's Got First?

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Garth Vader

I would think that by asking for help i would be showing that I am all about getting it right. sheesh.

You can think that way if you want but just remember, every time you change your call the the previously happy coach will now be the unhappy one.

Officiate as you see fit and have a good season.

[bob jenkins]

From NCAA Appendix E "Getting the Call Right"

No umpire shall criticize or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked by the one making it.

The umpire making the call must be the one to seek asistance of a partner.

In the situations below, a partner who is 100 percetn certain he has addiitonal information should approach unsolicited and alert the other umpire to such information (7 items listed, none of which is "pulled foot or swipe tag at first")

[Garth Vader]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

From NCAA Appendix E "Getting the Call Right"

No umpire shall criticize or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked by the one making it.

The umpire making the call must be the one to seek asistance of a partner.

In the situations below, a partner who is 100 percetn certain he has addiitonal information should approach unsolicited and alert the other umpire to such information (7 items listed, none of which is "pulled foot or swipe tag at first")

this is what i am referring to thanks for the update. just because there are only 7 the heart of the rule is clear. Bob, what are those seven?

[DG]

You guys can update me, because my CCA is 2009 model and in it PU goes up the 1b line with R1 only and on batted ball toward F3, U1 has BR at 1st as well as R1 at 2b and 3b if he chooses to advance past 2b.

I generally, in pregame say I will take runner on 1st into 3rd only if a batted ball leaves the infield.

I would not interject on my partners's call, but if he asks me, that is why I came up the line in 1st place so I would tell him and he can decide what to do with that info

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DG

You guys can update me, because my CCA is 2009 model and in it PU goes up the 1b line with R1 only and on batted ball toward F3, U1 has BR at 1st as well as R1 at 2b and 3b if he chooses to advance past 2b.

I generally, in pregame say I will take runner on 1st into 3rd only if a batted ball leaves the infield.

That's last year's mechanic. Now, PU has R1 (with R1 only) at third even if the batted ball doesn't leave the infield, unless there's a fair-foul issue in which case PU needs to stay near the line to rule on that so BU has the second play at thrid.

[Simply The Best]

Originally Posted by Garth Vader

this is what i am referring to thanks for the update. just because there are only 7 the heart of the rule is clear. Bob, what are those seven?

GarthV you can download a free copy of the NCAA rules:

NCAA Publications - 2011-2012 Baseball Rules (2 Year Publication)

There is this lead-in to Appendix E "Getting The Call Right" which says:

"The first requisite of an umpire is to ultimately get all decisions correct. Umpire pride is important, but never as important as getting the play right. It is the philosophy of the NCAA that umpires always seek to get the call
right. This may involve the reversal of a previously rendered decision. However, the correct decision—not the pride of any umpire—must prevail."

This is the ethics I teach, apparently you were taught, and on which any umpire should be taught.

To add emphasis, this creed of ethics is repeated in Section D;

"...contrary to past practice, umpires are not to “die with a call” in cases in which a) the calling umpire is not 100 percent certain he is right; and b) another umpire has additional information that could lead to a proper ruling. Both NCAA philosophy and umpire integrity – consistent with NCAA rules – dictate that calls are reversed in this situation."

The last paragraph of Appendix E states :

"Overall, umpires are urged to seek help on reversible plays in which they may have erred by not seeing a crucial element of a play."

These quotes above leave absolutely no interpretation by any official that places the game in front of his pride and ego except to "Get The Cal Right" regardless.