base runner

[rails42]

If a runner intentionally interfers with a throw is that interference and a dead ball or is the runner out and the ball is live.Rule 8-4-2g does not explain
the penalty for it

[UmpJM]

rails,

If a runner intentionally interferes with a thrown ball, that is interference and a dead ball (immediate). See 5-1-1e.

Rule 5 is one of the most important - and oft-overlooked - rules in the FED rulebook.

JM

[jicecone]

Rails,

The Dead Ball and delayed dead ball table in Rule 5 is a real handy tool to remember because, it ties in the penalties to just about every rule in the book. That and the awards table in 8 are very handy.

Good luck

[MikeStrybel]

This may be stating the obvious but...if the runner interferes it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not - the penalty applies, right? Batter interference usually involves a delayed dead ball.

At any of my clinics I preach to use the Casebook. It contains examples of what you look for and some pretty crazy plays that caused rule changes or points of emphasis. Check them out and I bet you'll find what you need.

Have a great season!

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by MikeStrybel

This may be stating the obvious but...if the runner interferes it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not - the penalty applies, right?

Interference with a thrown ball must be intentional.

[rails42]

Thank all of you for your answers

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

Interference with a thrown ball must be intentional.

Agree, however on a force play slide, a runner more than half way to second that gets hit with a throw, commits unintentional interference.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Agree, however on a force play slide, a runner more than half way to second that gets hit with a throw, commits unintentional interference.

jicecone,

Are you sure?

While I'm familiar with the official interp that says he's not guilty if he's less than halfway, I'm not so sure the converse applies.

Let me know how that goes the next time you call it.

JM

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

jicecone,

Are you sure?

JM

The implication is certainly there from the interpretation but, I do agree that you may also have to get ready to throw out the Coach after you call the two outs.

Never had to call it and your right, probably wouldn't.

[UmpJM]

jicecone,

Me neither.

There was another thread on the question awhile back, and I believe it was Bob Jenkins who suggested he wouldn't hold the runner liable until he was close enough to 2B that he would reasonably be expected to initiate his slide.

That made a lot of sense to me.

JM

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

jicecone,

Me neither.

There was another thread on the question awhile back, and I believe it was Bob Jenkins who suggested he wouldn't hold the runner liable until he was close enough to 2B that he would reasonably be expected to initiate his slide.

That made a lot of sense to me.

JM

FYI

Interesting TidBit; I was looking a a new book I just purchased, "Plays that Trip you Up", by Stearn and Moore and they have a Case Play about this, where the runner gets hit at the "halfway" point to second. In Fed the play stands and in NCAA R1 is out.

Kind of like working with the gov't. Everyone has a opinion but, No One wants to make a decision. Then when we try to enforce ambiguity, we look like the beast we three heads,

Have a good day.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jicecone

FYI

Interesting TidBit; I was looking a a new book I just purchased, "Plays that Trip you Up", by Stearn and Moore and they have a Case Play about this, where the runner gets hit at the "halfway" point to second. In Fed the play stands and in NCAA R1 is out.

Kind of like working with the gov't. Everyone has a opinion but, No One wants to make a decision. Then when we try to enforce ambiguity, we look like the beast we three heads,

Have a good day.

Interesting. What references do they give? I'd have the same ruling in both codes on these types of plays.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Interesting. What references do they give? I'd have the same ruling in both codes on these types of plays.

No references?